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mc0311grunt

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ok my 86 gt has an AOD. I got to the track weekly. I am about ready to order tires. I am debating between slicks and radials. What would be the best tire? Also does anyone have 3.73 or 4.10 in their AOD stang? If so which one works best? Thanks
 

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4.10 seem to be the popular choice for the AOD, for tires i would look into the NT05's seems they offer the best of both worlds
 

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i got 373s and i love them because i get the best of both worlds i can cruise to the trackat 60 mph and 2000 rpm and it still moves really quick right of the line
 

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dude you have a diesel mustang, you are my hero, ive been toying with a 6.0 coupe idea for a while
 

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Shaolin Crane said:
4.10 seem to be the popular choice for the AOD, for tires i would look into the NT05's seems they offer the best of both worlds
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Yeah I am trying to go fast at irwindale without any engine mods. I am going to wait til this engine blows before I start dumping $$$ in engine mods.
 

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mc0311grunt said:
ok my 86 gt has an AOD. I got to the track weekly. I am about ready to order tires. I am debating between slicks and radials. What would be the best tire? Also does anyone have 3.73 or 4.10 in their AOD stang? If so which one works best? Thanks
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Drag Radials perhaps?

If it's track only, by all means, slicks. Slicks don't work well at all on the street because they are designed to work on a preped surface and need to be heated and very clean, not a condition that you will find on the street.

Drag radials are designed to be used on the street. They work decent on the track, but are a night/day difference on the road.

4.10's at least since you have an auto. Don't forget to rebuild the traction lock unit, especially with the extra clutch pack in the alternative pattern and mabe even a stronger S spring from a F150.
 

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90mustangGT said:
Drag Radials perhaps?

If it's track only, by all means, slicks. Slicks don't work well at all on the street because they are designed to work on a preped surface and need to be heated and very clean, not a condition that you will find on the street.

Drag radials are designed to be used on the street. They work decent on the track, but are a night/day difference on the road.
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I've run both 275 drag radials and 28x9" slicks on the street for a lot of miles and the slicks hook so much better it's not even funny. If you use them enough they stay relatively clean. Even without a burnout or anything the difference is very clear. The drag radials almost always need to be feathered out of the hole and usually haze going into 2nd unless you do a good burnout and use vht. The slicks even without a burnout or prep hook 10 times better and hit 2nd so hard it feels like the rear end is gonna fall out. And if you do prep?? Say hello to rev limiter launches on the street. There's no comparison.
 

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I've run both 275 drag radials and 28x9" slicks on the street for a lot of miles and the slicks hook so much better it's not even funny. If you use them enough they stay relatively clean. Even without a burnout or anything the difference is very clear. The drag radials almost always need to be feathered out of the hole and usually haze going into 2nd unless you do a good burnout and use vht. The slicks even without a burnout or prep hook 10 times better and hit 2nd so hard it feels like the rear end is gonna fall out. And if you do prep?? Say hello to rev limiter launches on the street. There's no comparison.
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Not the experience a freind and I had when we ran some ET Streets on the street.
 

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We have run pretty much everything. ET street radials can work ok with a good burnout but last about 3 miles, and get all balled up when driving normal then don't hook for ****. I run old style bfg drag radials now and they last forever and work pretty damn good. The only slicks I have run are et drags and like I said they make radials look like a joke as long as they aren't freezing cold and dirty. But honestly, who races without at least cleaning them off?
 

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mc0311grunt said:
ok my 86 gt has an AOD. I got to the track weekly. I am about ready to order tires. I am debating between slicks and radials. What would be the best tire? Also does anyone have 3.73 or 4.10 in their AOD stang? If so which one works best? Thanks
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What rims are you using?

I run Firestone Firehawk Wide Ovals on my Notch and it will plant 430 rwhp on the street using said tires. They hook just as well as the Nitto's I ran.

Your next mod needs to be a Hellion turbo set up.
 

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blackened88lx said:
I've run both 275 drag radials and 28x9" slicks on the street for a lot of miles and the slicks hook so much better it's not even funny. If you use them enough they stay relatively clean. Even without a burnout or anything the difference is very clear. The drag radials almost always need to be feathered out of the hole and usually haze going into 2nd unless you do a good burnout and use vht. The slicks even without a burnout or prep hook 10 times better and hit 2nd so hard it feels like the rear end is gonna fall out. And if you do prep?? Say hello to rev limiter launches on the street. There's no comparison.
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he said he is using an auto though, so getting the drag radial to hook should be no problem
 

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blackened88lx said:
We have run pretty much everything. ET street radials can work ok with a good burnout but last about 3 miles, and get all balled up when driving normal then don't hook for ****. I run old style bfg drag radials now and they last forever and work pretty damn good. The only slicks I have run are et drags and like I said they make radials look like a joke as long as they aren't freezing cold and dirty. But honestly, who races without at least cleaning them off?
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Really? I love my ET Street radials. They hook so much better than the old style BFG's. Sorry they didn't seem to work for you. Mine hook extremely well on the street with 388rwhp, 3.73, and 5 speed.

As for at the track. Well it really depends on how good the track is prepped. I've to to Brandenton and didnt spin at all(230rwhp, 1.89 60 foot). Next week went to my local 1/8 mile track(same car, 2.1 60ft most of night and a 2.66) the track sucked.

Also I had a buddy who would spin his slicks, then went a tad wider on ET drag radials and can't spin them.
 

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the size of the rim plays a part in how well the drag radial will hook, i would like to try and run them on a 15x10 and see how well they work, i brought this up on YB.com, and there was a guy that switched from a 15x8 to 15x10 and could spray the car with more juice off the line cause it flattened out the contact patch so much.


I just read over the original post again, and since you go to the track weekly id say just get the ET street, will last alot longer and save you some bucks
 

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Notchbck93 said:
What rims are you using?

I run Firestone Firehawk Wide Ovals on my Notch and it will plant 430 rwhp on the street using said tires. They hook just as well as the Nitto's I ran.

Your next mod needs to be a Hellion turbo set up.
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I got the stock 10 holes. My quickest run is 9.13@76 at irwindale on street tires. I heard stock rear ends can't handle slicks hence the radial question. Thanks for the input
 

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90mustangGT said:
Not the experience a freind and I had when we ran some ET Streets on the street.
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Theres a difference between et streets and slicks also, a lot of people have problems with the et streets hooking on the street.
 

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I got the stock 10 holes. My quickest run is 9.13@76 at irwindale on street tires. I heard stock rear ends can't handle slicks hence the radial question. Thanks for the input
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Just an fyi. I broke a stock axle with a stock motor on the bfg drag radials 2nd pass at the track.

To people saying drag radials hook better than slicks, you're having some serious operator error going on. It's a night and day difference between drag radials and slicks. I've tried it once or twice.
 

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blackened88lx said:
Just an fyi. I broke a stock axle with a stock motor on the bfg drag radials 2nd pass at the track.

To people saying drag radials hook better than slicks, you're having some serious operator error going on. It's a night and day difference between drag radials and slicks. I've tried it once or twice.
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Becasue people go with a wider Radial than slicks, it's cheaper to do. Drag Radials can crinkle better off the line.(So I have been told.) It really does depend on the track though.
 

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Becasue people go with a wider Radial than slicks, it's cheaper to do. Drag Radials can crinkle better off the line.(So I have been told.) It really does depend on the track though.
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if track prep isnt good then drag radials are just about useless on my car, the one time my car hooked, it was an event with the FAST guys(factory appearing stock tire), and they were prepping the **** out of the track all day. and on the street, forget about it
 

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Becasue people go with a wider Radial than slicks, it's cheaper to do. Drag Radials can crinkle better off the line.(So I have been told.) It really does depend on the track though.
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It's exactly the opposite. Slicks wrinkle much more. Slicks are a much softer compound and sidewall allowing them to flex and stick. My drag radials are an inch and a half wider than my slicks, also on a wider wheel, and don't hook anywhere near as good. I would say the only time drag radials will hook better in the same situation is if it's in the rain. The track is going to have a big affect on how either tire hooks, but it's not going to make the radials hook better. They just don't work that way.
 

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I have no problem hooking up with ET drag radials. I have an AOD/with the 2.84 1st gear with 3500 stall and 3.73`s and best of 1.55 60' so yes they hook.
I will say this for those of you thinking you need a 275x50x15 drag radial, I had some tire spin till I put on the 255x60x15, yeah a narrower and taller tire and now no spin whatsoever. Both were mounted on 8" weld drag lites.
For the OP go with the 3.73`s if you ever plan on a non-lock stall converter, if you stay with a lock-up converter then do the 4.10`s
 
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