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NotA5oh

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My 2.3 turbo engine is spitting alot of oil out of the dipstick when any boost is created and I think I screwed up the rings or something in there. Anyway would it be cheaper to rebuild the engine with forged internals or replace the entire engine? What are the best pistions or the best rebuild kit to buy and where would something like that be available?
 

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You put the turbo on the n/a engine or is this an actual turbomotor, in any case, I'd check the PCV Valve
 

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CruzNlife1 said:
You put the turbo on the n/a engine or is this an actual turbomotor, in any case, I'd check the PCV Valve
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The PCV valve has been replaced 2 times so i know its not that. and its a real turbo motor, from a 88 thunderbird.
 

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Do a compression check before you get too serious about rebuilding.

Most likely the pistons are fine and you won't have to replace them. In that case you can rebuild it for 135 bucks (price of rings, bearings, and gaskets) plus the price of a hone job. This is assuming you can do it yourself. If you have to pay someone to do it then it will definately be cheaper to drop another motor in.

Stinger
 

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NotA5oh said:
The PCV valve has been replaced 2 times so i know its not that. and its a real turbo motor, from a 88 thunderbird.
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Is it a Ford valve?

If not, go outside and lay a big steaming turd on the ground. Pick it up and shove it in the hose. THAT will work better then an aftermarket PCV valve.

There is a reason that the right PCV valve cost over 10 bucks, while all overs are a dollar or two.
 

NotA5oh

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GT350R said:
Is it a Ford valve?

If not, go outside and lay a big steaming turd on the ground. Pick it up and shove it in the hose. THAT will work better then an aftermarket PCV valve.

There is a reason that the right PCV valve cost over 10 bucks, while all overs are a dollar or two.
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Do you realy think the reason my car is spitting oil out of the dipstick all over my brake booster and half my engine bay is because I bought a PCV valve from schucks and not ford? Is there that much of a difference?

Another thing, when I put that new valve on it was sucking alot of air out of the top opening thing so I put the cap that it came with on the second opening? Might that have something to do with it?
 

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NotA5oh said:
Do you realy think the reason my car is spitting oil out of the dipstick all over my brake booster and half my engine bay is because I bought a PCV valve from schucks and not ford? Is there that much of a difference?

Another thing, when I put that new valve on it was sucking alot of air out of the top opening thing so I put the cap that it came with on the second opening? Might that have something to do with it?
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Yes, it makes that much of a difference.

You shouldn't have to or even be able to use the little extra piece that comes with the valve...you should just slide each end into the hose.

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NotA5oh said:
Do you realy think the reason my car is spitting oil out of the dipstick all over my brake booster and half my engine bay is because I bought a PCV valve from schucks and not ford? Is there that much of a difference?

Another thing, when I put that new valve on it was sucking alot of air out of the top opening thing so I put the cap that it came with on the second opening? Might that have something to do with it?
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Absolutely the reason, they do make that much of a difference. When you have any boost in the intake manifold, it blows right past the cheap PCV valve into your crankcase. The crankcase then blows oil out anything it can....seals, gaskets, DIPSTICK. This even happens on N/A engines with a faulty (clogged) pcv and clogged vent.
 
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I realize this post is about 2 months old but, when you pull up to a stop do you let the motor idle for awhile? If not and you have been getting into the turbo, this could be caused from a bad internal seal in the turbo. You will still be building boost but you leak oil from the oil feed into the compressor side. Pull your down pipe and see if you have oil residue in there. You may need to get your turbo rebuilt. This was the problem with my turbo car and it was pushing oil all over the place and smoking bad whenever it spooled.
 

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pat83t said:
I realize this post is about 2 months old but, when you pull up to a stop do you let the motor idle for awhile? If not and you have been getting into the turbo, this could be caused from a bad internal seal in the turbo. You will still be building boost but you leak oil from the oil feed into the compressor side. Pull your down pipe and see if you have oil residue in there. You may need to get your turbo rebuilt. This was the problem with my turbo car and it was pushing oil all over the place and smoking bad whenever it spooled.
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Thanks for the help, but I have given up on that car, sold it. Took a loss with all the time and money i have put into it but it was just gitting deeper in problems and my money, so its gone now, I will probly regret it someday but for now I dont have any more worrys.

When I dont have so much stress and alot more time, I will get another mustang, but for now I am in college and working 35 hours a week, so I can't keep up with it. I have a Nissan maxima now and plan on keeping it stock so that it will be a car i dont worry about.
 
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