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Removed K&N FIPK

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  • Start date Start date Sep 8, 2005

ScottyG00GT

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I had a persistent problem with pinging/detonation under WOT in 5th gear on the highway. I tried the usual cures - ran two bottles of injector cleaner through, cleaned the MAF sensor, etc. - no change (although the car did run better after the cleaner). Finally, I went to our fairly reputable local Ford dealer. I found out that despite my cleaning efforts, the MAF was still contaminated and would have to be replaced. While this could have just been due to age (I have 74k miles), I had just re-oiled my K&N prior to taking the car in, so to avoid risking further damage to a new mass air sensor, I had them re-install my old stock paper-filter induction system along with the new mass air meter. The car runs fine now. Without the K&N the car does appear ever so slightly less perky, and the fuel mileage is the same from what I can tell. In other words, no real noticeable difference although I am sure I lost some high-rpm power (K&N claims up to 10 hp at high rpm for the FIPK).

I think that this dealership is pretty reputable, because they didn't make a big deal about my K&N, although when I asked my service associate, he said that could be part of the contamination problem. This filter had never been oiled except from the factory, which perhaps explain why it went 35,000 miles without a real issue.

Bottom line is I learned that for day-in, day-out maximum reliability for a car that serves as your main transportation, the stock parts do pretty well. I had 35,000 miles with the K&N, and maybe I'll put it back on someday, but the tradeoff in driveability was worth my removing it for now. I don't usually drive the car to the max, so the ever-so-slight performance loss is not a big deal.
 

Dark Knight GT

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I drive my car almost every day with the K&N FIPK unit on my car. I've re-oiled it twice now, and I've never had any issues like what you described. Same goes for my brothers 01 GT.

Its important to remember that when re-oiling the filter, you clean all the old oil and dirt out first. Then, when re-oiling, apply the oil sparingly, and give it time to absorb into the filter element. Let it set for about 10 minutes after oiling, give it another inspection, and add oil where it needs it. Just don't over oil it, as over oiling tends to lead to oil build up on the MAF meter.

As for power, trinity_gt gained 9.3rwhp on a dyno jet with his unit. This was on a basic bolt-on GT too. No serious motor mods. Just figured I'de put that out there so people know the power these units actually make.
 

trinity_gt

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Yep, that was the first mod I did. At that time, the rest of the car was bone stock. Went from 228.5 to 237.8 if I recall.

Re maintenance: properly maintained (i.e. properly cleaned, oiled properly etc), the FIPK shouldn't give problems. It has yet to give me any issues. I've made a habit of cleaning my MAF once a season (when I take the car out of storage in the spring) with a spritz of brake cleaner.

FWIW, I can't see a situation where a MAF would require replacing because of K&N filter oil gunk on it. Unless they broke the filaments/sensors while cleaning (indicating incompetence on the part of the service guys) the MAF shouldn't have needed replacing unless there was something else physically wrong with it.
 

Orions98GT

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15k miles on mine, and no problems here. I clean it and re oil it every oil change as K&N directs.
 

04gtdrop

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how often are you supposed to clean the MAF and K&N filter? how many miles???
 

sgarlic

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You do the K&N at about the same interval as you'd replace a regular air filter. I think it says on the recharge kit box, but I'm too lazy to walk outside and look. I just pop mine out at every oil change and look at it to see if it looks like it needs oil.

And as stated above, if you apply the oil correctly, you probably won't ever need to clean the MAF sensor.
 

Dark Knight GT

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I re-oil my filter unit once a year. Thats about all it needs it.
 

ToplessStang

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I've replaced quite a few maf sensors at work and every car or truck that I replaced it on had the stock air intake. It might have just been it's time to go.
 
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