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Replace EGR Carb Spacer with Non EGR Spacer

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If I am not concerned with SMOG and emissions can I replace the mid '75's EGR carburetor spacer I have now with an early '71 style non EGR one, or better yet do I need a spacer at all?

My Motorcraft 2150 carb has a PCV port on the base of it, so I placed the carb on the intake manifold without any spacers and I did not have any clearance problems. I did google carb spacers and I guess they serve a purpose other than giving you an inch of height, but I figure I ask you anyways if I need one. I figure with it I can have leaks between the carb and the spacer as well as between the spacer and the intake manifold, so I am thinking why not just eliminate it all together.

Again I am new to this car stuff so please be gentle. Pictures below:



 
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finding a 2bbl carb space might be harder to find but i would check jegs or summit for just a non-egr 2bbl carb spacer. You could just bolt the carb directly to your intake manifold but you might need shorter carb studs. Also if your carb doesnt have a spot for your vacume advance, make sure you get a space with one. and dont forget new gaskets
 
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thanks for your replies

thanks for your input, here's a link to more pictures of the spacer

Small Block Ford 302 V8
 

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I would be tempted to use the non-EGR spacer. A carb spacer can improve performance by increasing the amount of plenum volume .
 
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What's with me and mud? So today I went to our local Pick-n-Pull aka junkyard and I found this 1973 Ford F-Series truck with a two barrel carb and a spacer with no hoses going to it and no EGR valve. Sweet I thought maybe this spacer will work for my EGR deletion on my 76, so I pulled it off. Then I flipped the spacer over and found dirt/mud under it, what the heck I thought, man it was cracked, no good. I bought some other parts and asked if I could have this spacer for free, they said no, but reduced the price to $4.00 bucks, so I bought it just for the he11 of it since the bottom is different from the two I already have so this type would not draw exhaust gases all the time into the intake.

Can any of you identify the carb from this picture, I couldn't see a label on it?





 

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Looks like a garden variety 2 bbl on top of a FE.
 
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Here are the three spacers I accumulated from junk yards. They look similar but the two smaller ones have a base plate that is narrower from front to back they are 3 inches by 5 1/4 inches, the big one which is what came on my engine measures 3 1/4 inches front to back and 5 1/2 accross. So when I use one of the two smaller ones there is a small gap between the spacer and the carburetor.

At this point I am thinking of keeping my original spacer and fabbing a EGR block off plate, no big deal, but I wanted to use the spacer in the middle without the nipple for a clean look since my 2150 Motorcraft 2 barrel carb has the PVC nipple on its base already.

I'm sharing the pictures and part numbers to help someone else down the road.

LEFT: D2TE-9A589-BA (but the year stamped in the circle says 71)

MIDDLE: no part number (but the year stamped in the circle says 72)

RIGHT: D50E-9A589



 
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Since non of the non EGR carburetor spacers would work with my EGR manifold I decided to make an EGR block off plate out of 1/4 inch thick piece of steel I found in the garage, probably overkill but less cutting. Please note the different bolt sizes, I have no idea why Ford did that, but one is bigger than the other.









 
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