The cop began his speech by saying that management of Fred's and the Wells Fargo Bank wanted us to leave. Enough said.
They can't force me to leave private property unless management, the owner, or the leasing party requests that I vacate the premises. At that point, a return to the property would result in criminal trespass.
Well if were getting coffee from starbucks or moonstrucks whitch btw there is plenty of parking in front of moonstrucks then fredmeyers can kiss are ass because they do not have authority over the whole parking lot. You know weve hung out there for a very long timeThe cop began his speech by saying that management of Fred's and the Wells Fargo Bank wanted us to leave. Enough said.
Damn tell it like it is steve! So what made you come back on S/N? peace
Remember back when S/N crashed and alot of people lost their accounts, well I thought I lost mine, but come to find out I just forgot the password so I figured I could come back when I learned that my account was still around.
Cool well good to see ya back! peace
john
Do we have any lawyers on here? If so, they should be at the next Starbucks meet. Wouldn't that be a fascinating conversation to listen to. The cops are generally correct in assuming that the people they bully know less about the law than they do. Running into someone who konws more could be amusing.
So if they show up while we are there and we DONT choose to leave, whats the worst they can do to us? But it almost sounds like the easiest thing to do is find another spot? peace
john
That way, it will be easier for you to go to the meets, right? Oh wait, you never come anyway!
If the owner of the parking lot asks us to leave, and we refuse, that is criminal trespass. It is a little gray on whether or not a relayed eviction from the cop is good enough to count. But if you guess wrong it'll cost some bucks for a lawyer to fix the situation.So if they show up while we are there and we DONT choose to leave, whats the worst they can do to us?
That way, it will be easier for you to go to the meets, right? Oh wait, you never come anyway!
...it almost sounds like the easiest thing to do is find another spot...
Dont worry i'll be out more this year!peace
john
Pisses me off. It is what they want.The have free reign to harrass us because our legal system makes it to difficult to stop the harrassment.
Karma's an angry bitch. I bet his wife is hideous. We all come out even in the end....
Anyone catch his name? I know a couple Beav PD officers and I will ask about this tool next time I see them.
Ya know we could always spend more time at the track to shoot the B.S? Ya know they wont kick us out there! Whats better seeing some drag racing, shooting the **** and not worring about getting harassed. And when the ricers go speeding by say lets run just to seee how fast ya really are? peace
john
Im with you on that one, couldnt of said it betterNothing new, but all things considered, we were actually hanging out at the WFB lot, but considering the fact that there are no posted signs against trespassing or loitering, the police should never had said anything. We shouldn't be surprised though, first cruising laws are established because of troubles with kids and cars out at all night, then street racing problems so they open up PIR to help alleviate some of the troubles with kids and cars, then local hangouts get taken away because of the troubles with kids and cars. Just because we drive a certain make or most of us are adults out there, it shouldn't favor one group from the next to decide who gets to hang out where. I say we hang out until signs are posted or more harrasment from the law continues, then we can go to the city council and make a showing and stand up for our rights as citizens who want to do nothing but get out of the house and hang out with other gearheads or find another place to hang out.
This problem has a very easy solution. All someone needs to do is walk into the bank and ask to speak to a supervisor, or someone in charge. Very professionally tell them that we have been meeting in their parking lot almost every weekend during summers and ocassionaly during the winter and have never had a problem.
We have never de-faced anything, nor never did any permanant damage there and ask permission from that person to continue using their lot. If they agree to this then get something written on their letter head and problem solved. The cops can't say a thank as it's WFB parking lot not Starbucks, and they can't say jack isht to that.
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