I would like to one day build a replica 351w like the saleen had. Does anyone all the specs for the engine. Like what heads, cam, intake, internals, etc.
Saleen 351w specs, h/c/i..etc
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FordStang
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zenboy99
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Are you talking about the Saleen S7 or the supercharged 351 that was in the Mustangs?
The Saleen S7 has a 351 Windsor stroker motor.
The Saleen S7 has a 351 Windsor stroker motor.
I had a more detailed list somewhere. I'll have to find it again
Saleen S351 Specs
Engine Engine
351 cubic inch (5.8L) Saleen Centrifugal Supercharged
OHV 90 degree V-8
Horsopower
495 @ 5400 rpm
Torque
490 feet pounds @ 3500 rpm
Drivetrain Transmission
Saleen Quick Ratio 6-speed manual transmission
Driveshaft
8.8" differential 3.27:1 ratio Saleen driveshaft
Optional: 8.8" differential 3.55:1 or 3.08:1 ratio driveshaft
Suspension Front
Hybrid MacPherson struts with Saleens Racecraft system
Rear
Live axle four bar link with Saleen Racecraft variable rate coil-springs
on boxed lower trailing arms
Brakes Power 4-wheel ABS disc brakes
Front: Saleen 13.0" grooved disc with 4-piston calipers
Rear: 10.5" disc with 4 piston calipers
Wheels Saleen five spoke alloy wheels
Front and Rear 18" x 9" O
Optional: Rear 18" x 10"
Tires Pirelli P7000
Front: P255/35 ZR-18
Rear: P265/35 ZR-18
Optional:
Pirelli PZero
Front: P265/35 ZR-18
Rear: P295/35 ZR-18
Performance 1/4 Mile
12.7 secs @122.0 MPH
0-60
4.5
top speed: 172
lat. accel.
0.93g
Pricing Base
$55,990
Saleen S351 Specs
Engine Engine
351 cubic inch (5.8L) Saleen Centrifugal Supercharged
OHV 90 degree V-8
Horsopower
495 @ 5400 rpm
Torque
490 feet pounds @ 3500 rpm
Drivetrain Transmission
Saleen Quick Ratio 6-speed manual transmission
Driveshaft
8.8" differential 3.27:1 ratio Saleen driveshaft
Optional: 8.8" differential 3.55:1 or 3.08:1 ratio driveshaft
Suspension Front
Hybrid MacPherson struts with Saleens Racecraft system
Rear
Live axle four bar link with Saleen Racecraft variable rate coil-springs
on boxed lower trailing arms
Brakes Power 4-wheel ABS disc brakes
Front: Saleen 13.0" grooved disc with 4-piston calipers
Rear: 10.5" disc with 4 piston calipers
Wheels Saleen five spoke alloy wheels
Front and Rear 18" x 9" O
Optional: Rear 18" x 10"
Tires Pirelli P7000
Front: P255/35 ZR-18
Rear: P265/35 ZR-18
Optional:
Pirelli PZero
Front: P265/35 ZR-18
Rear: P295/35 ZR-18
Performance 1/4 Mile
12.7 secs @122.0 MPH
0-60
4.5
top speed: 172
lat. accel.
0.93g
Pricing Base
$55,990
I have all that on a Saleen poster. Its pretty cool, but I was looking for the engine parts. It would be awesome to build a replica Saleen 351w. And since im not in a hurry I can build it little by little
green94droptop
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green94droptop said:
I think that you might be right. The one that I drove definately had iron heads on it and the saleen vortech intake which is based off the truck lower from ford. The GT-40 heads off a 95 lightning would bolt right on the S-351 motor so that is a very good possibility. If it were me I would not go for all authentic parts when it comes to the motor. Stick a set of AFR 185's, a good cam, saleen intake since it is just like the holley, and a S-trim on a 351W motor and make even more power. Stroking is also a good idea since no one would know that it was done. Now on the outside make it look just like a saleen but please don't claim it to be real since most mustang guru's can find the things that will tell if it is real or not which can make you look really stupid.
Mach_1 said:
your right because the poster I have says it has edelbrock heads, but which ones I dont know.
pleasehelp
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Finally someone finds specs on them. I looked but could not find anything about them. Figures the best info on a American car has to come from a website out of the country. Anyway, the car that I drove definately had the saleen/vortech intake that looks just like the systemax intake from holley. But the pics that I found shows all of them with a modified cobra intake. It had been cut and probably ported and an extra piece of aluminum added to the upper and then tig welded back together. I am not sure why they done this but that was on all of the cars that I found pics for. The car that I drove was a 94 S-351 but there is the possibility that it had been changed since it was not the original owner that let me drive it.
zenboy99
Founding Member
What about the S7 engine? Thats a 351 stroker pushrod motor that makes 500hp. Anyone have any details on that engine? I plan on putting a 351 stroker in when I win the lottery.
zenboy99
Founding Member
Saleen S7
7.0 Liter small block Ford 4 1/8 x 4.0 bore/stroke
Aluminum heads 2.125 intake 1.625 exhaust titanium retainers, beryllium exhaust seats
(beryllium is used as a heat sheild on the space shuttle)
hydraulic roller cam
80mm mass air meter with 42lb/hr injectors
coil on plug ignition
Saleen power flash computer
550hp@6400
525trq@4000
7000rpm redline
Thats all the info I could find.
7.0 Liter small block Ford 4 1/8 x 4.0 bore/stroke
Aluminum heads 2.125 intake 1.625 exhaust titanium retainers, beryllium exhaust seats
(beryllium is used as a heat sheild on the space shuttle)
hydraulic roller cam
80mm mass air meter with 42lb/hr injectors
coil on plug ignition
Saleen power flash computer
550hp@6400
525trq@4000
7000rpm redline
Thats all the info I could find.
I dont think that it's based off the 351W motor. The 351W has a bore of 4.0in with a stroke of 3.5in and a 5.9in rod. And displaces 7.0L which is a 427 motor and has a stroke 4.0 and a bore of 4.125 which matches the bore and stroke of the 427 FE motor. So it's not windsor based and it's loosely based off the 427 FE motor. It is a OHV car with a all aluminum block will all forged billet parts, roller cam, and twin MAF systems on the street version. Hell I could type it all our or just paste it from saleens website. So here are the official specs:
S P E C I F I C A T I O N S
Take an in depth look at the Saleen S7
Saleen S7 Features and Specifications
GENERAL
Curb Weight 2,750 pounds (1250kg)
Weight Distribution, F/R 40% / 60%
Fuel Capacity 19 US Gal (72 Liters)
Wheelbase 106.25 in (2700mm)
Track, F/R 68.75in (1748mm) / 67.25 in (1710mm)
Width 78.3 inches (1990mm)
Front overhang 40.6 in (1031mm)
Rear overhang 41.1 in (1045mm)
Length 188 inches (4774mm)
Height 41 inches (1041mm)
Ground clearance 4 inches (100 mm)
Trunk Space, F/R 2.65 cu ft (6253.3cc) / 2.82 cu ft (6654.4cc)
CHASSIS Space frame 4130 lightweight steel
with honeycomb composite panels
ENGINE
Type All-Aluminum V-8 2V cam-in-block
Displacement 7.0 liter
Bore and Stroke 4 1/8" x 4.0" (104.8 x 101.6 mm)
Pistons Forged
Connecting Rods EN40B billet steel
Crankshaft 4340 forged billet steel
Induction system Roof intake feeding twin 80mm mass air meters feeding carbon fiber plenum. Magnesium oval bore throttle body (longitudinally mounted). Intake manifold: magnesium w/ 8 individual runners.
Heads CNC machined all-aluminum Saleen high flow
Valves Stainless steel with titanium retainers. Intake: 2.125" (54.0mm). Exhaust: 1.625 " (41.3mm). Beryllium exhaust seats.
Valve train Hydraulic roller lifter/roller rocker
Exhaust System Stainless steel high flow with merge collector incorporating dual catalysts per cylinder bank and EGR system
Required fuel 92 octane
Alternator 140 Amps
Battery 12 V
Front Engine Accessory Drive (FEAD) Compact drive system w/side-mounted water pump
Emission Control System OBD-II compliant, dual heated oxygen sensor per bank, high-volume EVAP system
Fly-wheel 5.5" (139.7mm) steel 4-plate
Fuel System High capacity returnless with 42 lb./hr. injectors
Oil system High vacuum dry sump configuration. Capacity: 12.6 qt. (12l). Aluminum oil tank.
Horsepower 550 hp @ 6400 rpm
Torque 525 ft.-lbs. @ 4000 RPM
Redline 7000 rpm
COOLING SYSTEM
Carbon fiber front intake feeding twin front-mounted aluminum water radiators w/ ECU controlled electric cooling fans. Twin side-mounted oil-air coolers.
ELECTRONICS
Saleen PowerFlash control system computer. Integrated coil-on-plug ignition system.
DRIVETRAIN
Transmission: Longitudinal, 6-speed all synchro-mesh transaxle
Transmission Ratios
1st 2.46
2nd 2.06
3rd 1.47
4th 1.18
5th 0.958
6th 0.74
Final drive ratio 3.22
Limited slip differential
Light-weight inboard and outboard tri-pod joints
High torque capacity steel halfshafts
Clutch : metallic 5.5" dia., 4-plate, hydraulic actuation
SUSPENSION
Front suspension system: Unequal length, double wishbones, light-weight aluminum dampers, w/ coilover springs. Front anti-roll bar.
CNC machined billet aluminum flow-through uprights.
Rear suspension system: Unequal length, double wishbones, light-weight aluminum dampers, with coilover springs.
CNC machined billet aluminum flow-through uprights.
BRAKES
Saleen engineered/Brembo supplied lightweight aluminum, six-piston calipers front/rear:
15 in. Ventilated Disc (Front)
14 in. Ventilated Disc (Rear)
Light-weight aluminum disc mounting bells
WHEELS AND TIRES
Saleen forged alloy wheels.
Center locking wheel nuts with automatic safety locks:
19 in. x 9.5 in. Front wheels
20 in. x 13 in. Rear wheels
High Performance Pirelli P-Zero Rossa Tires
Front 275/30-19
Rear 355/25-20
SAFETY FEATURES
Integrated roll protection
Aluminum honeycomb impact absorbing panels
3-point seat belts with automatic seat belt pre-tensioners
Carbon fiber rocker panels and doors
Aluminum honeycomb front crush structure, integrated rear crumple zones
Center position fuel tank/passenger-side filler
INTERIOR FEATURES
SEATING AND TRIM
Connolly leathers
Aluminum and body-color accents
Performance sport seating
Custom fitted driver seating position
Leather-wrapped steering wheel & shift knob
Rear-view video camera w/ interior LCD display
Quick-release steering wheel
240 mph speedometer
Central-mounted tachometer
COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE
High volume flow-through ventilation system
Air conditioning
Fully adjustable tilt & telescoping steering column
Power windows.
Power door locks with central locking system
Variable intermittent windshield wipers
Electric heated front windshield
Custom-made fitted luggage
Remote trunk/hatch/fuel-filler door releases
AM/FM remote six-disc CD changer audio system
SECURITY
Theft-deterrent security system
Electronic immobilizer system
EXTERIOR FEATURES
Dual power-operated door mirrors
Projector beam headlights
Heat-rejecting tinted glass
Power antenna
Autoclave carbon fiber body panels
Advanced wind tunnel developed aerodynamics, including: Integrated split-channel air flow throughout car; full underside aerodynamics; advanced design front tray & side skirts; integrated full body wing.
All specifications are preliminary and subject to change without notice.
© 2002 Saleen, Inc. All Rights Reserved
Saleen S7 is a registered trade mark of Saleen, Inc. No unauthorized use permitted.
S P E C I F I C A T I O N S
Take an in depth look at the Saleen S7
Saleen S7 Features and Specifications
GENERAL
Curb Weight 2,750 pounds (1250kg)
Weight Distribution, F/R 40% / 60%
Fuel Capacity 19 US Gal (72 Liters)
Wheelbase 106.25 in (2700mm)
Track, F/R 68.75in (1748mm) / 67.25 in (1710mm)
Width 78.3 inches (1990mm)
Front overhang 40.6 in (1031mm)
Rear overhang 41.1 in (1045mm)
Length 188 inches (4774mm)
Height 41 inches (1041mm)
Ground clearance 4 inches (100 mm)
Trunk Space, F/R 2.65 cu ft (6253.3cc) / 2.82 cu ft (6654.4cc)
CHASSIS Space frame 4130 lightweight steel
with honeycomb composite panels
ENGINE
Type All-Aluminum V-8 2V cam-in-block
Displacement 7.0 liter
Bore and Stroke 4 1/8" x 4.0" (104.8 x 101.6 mm)
Pistons Forged
Connecting Rods EN40B billet steel
Crankshaft 4340 forged billet steel
Induction system Roof intake feeding twin 80mm mass air meters feeding carbon fiber plenum. Magnesium oval bore throttle body (longitudinally mounted). Intake manifold: magnesium w/ 8 individual runners.
Heads CNC machined all-aluminum Saleen high flow
Valves Stainless steel with titanium retainers. Intake: 2.125" (54.0mm). Exhaust: 1.625 " (41.3mm). Beryllium exhaust seats.
Valve train Hydraulic roller lifter/roller rocker
Exhaust System Stainless steel high flow with merge collector incorporating dual catalysts per cylinder bank and EGR system
Required fuel 92 octane
Alternator 140 Amps
Battery 12 V
Front Engine Accessory Drive (FEAD) Compact drive system w/side-mounted water pump
Emission Control System OBD-II compliant, dual heated oxygen sensor per bank, high-volume EVAP system
Fly-wheel 5.5" (139.7mm) steel 4-plate
Fuel System High capacity returnless with 42 lb./hr. injectors
Oil system High vacuum dry sump configuration. Capacity: 12.6 qt. (12l). Aluminum oil tank.
Horsepower 550 hp @ 6400 rpm
Torque 525 ft.-lbs. @ 4000 RPM
Redline 7000 rpm
COOLING SYSTEM
Carbon fiber front intake feeding twin front-mounted aluminum water radiators w/ ECU controlled electric cooling fans. Twin side-mounted oil-air coolers.
ELECTRONICS
Saleen PowerFlash control system computer. Integrated coil-on-plug ignition system.
DRIVETRAIN
Transmission: Longitudinal, 6-speed all synchro-mesh transaxle
Transmission Ratios
1st 2.46
2nd 2.06
3rd 1.47
4th 1.18
5th 0.958
6th 0.74
Final drive ratio 3.22
Limited slip differential
Light-weight inboard and outboard tri-pod joints
High torque capacity steel halfshafts
Clutch : metallic 5.5" dia., 4-plate, hydraulic actuation
SUSPENSION
Front suspension system: Unequal length, double wishbones, light-weight aluminum dampers, w/ coilover springs. Front anti-roll bar.
CNC machined billet aluminum flow-through uprights.
Rear suspension system: Unequal length, double wishbones, light-weight aluminum dampers, with coilover springs.
CNC machined billet aluminum flow-through uprights.
BRAKES
Saleen engineered/Brembo supplied lightweight aluminum, six-piston calipers front/rear:
15 in. Ventilated Disc (Front)
14 in. Ventilated Disc (Rear)
Light-weight aluminum disc mounting bells
WHEELS AND TIRES
Saleen forged alloy wheels.
Center locking wheel nuts with automatic safety locks:
19 in. x 9.5 in. Front wheels
20 in. x 13 in. Rear wheels
High Performance Pirelli P-Zero Rossa Tires
Front 275/30-19
Rear 355/25-20
SAFETY FEATURES
Integrated roll protection
Aluminum honeycomb impact absorbing panels
3-point seat belts with automatic seat belt pre-tensioners
Carbon fiber rocker panels and doors
Aluminum honeycomb front crush structure, integrated rear crumple zones
Center position fuel tank/passenger-side filler
INTERIOR FEATURES
SEATING AND TRIM
Connolly leathers
Aluminum and body-color accents
Performance sport seating
Custom fitted driver seating position
Leather-wrapped steering wheel & shift knob
Rear-view video camera w/ interior LCD display
Quick-release steering wheel
240 mph speedometer
Central-mounted tachometer
COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE
High volume flow-through ventilation system
Air conditioning
Fully adjustable tilt & telescoping steering column
Power windows.
Power door locks with central locking system
Variable intermittent windshield wipers
Electric heated front windshield
Custom-made fitted luggage
Remote trunk/hatch/fuel-filler door releases
AM/FM remote six-disc CD changer audio system
SECURITY
Theft-deterrent security system
Electronic immobilizer system
EXTERIOR FEATURES
Dual power-operated door mirrors
Projector beam headlights
Heat-rejecting tinted glass
Power antenna
Autoclave carbon fiber body panels
Advanced wind tunnel developed aerodynamics, including: Integrated split-channel air flow throughout car; full underside aerodynamics; advanced design front tray & side skirts; integrated full body wing.
All specifications are preliminary and subject to change without notice.
© 2002 Saleen, Inc. All Rights Reserved
Saleen S7 is a registered trade mark of Saleen, Inc. No unauthorized use permitted.
zenboy99
Founding Member
I got my information from the Saleen dealership in Chicago. The salesman told me that the engine was based off of the windsor block. Its pretty much the same engine that was in the Saleen racing Mustangs that were yellow black and white (not sure what division they raced in), except the racing version had Cleveland heads.
zenboy99 said:
Are you talking about the S7 or the S-351 and the SR race cars? The S7 is a whole new engine design and I don't think that it is based off the small block ford. To get the bore right you would have to bore the 351 block .125 which is more than it could stand for a street engine. But if you are talking about the street 351 vs the race 351 then I am not sure. And just so you know dealerships that have a saleen certification does not make the salesmen experts in the cars. Last salesman that I tried to talk to about one of the cars had no idea what he was talking about.
pleasehelp
New Member
http://www.autonetdirect.com/all_exotics/03saleen_S7.html
Go down where it talks about the engine specs.
It says, "Saleen/Allen Speedlab race team engine builder, Bill Tally, is the engine's designer. Based on a Ford-cast all aluminum block re-engineered by Saleen, the cam-in-block 7-litre motor generates 550 horsepower at 6400 rpm."
But what engine block cast is it of off? 351?
Here's another http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=6735
"The massive 7.0-liter V-8 engine is assembled in a squeaky-clean room that’s appropriately dubbed the Speedlab. The motor is loosely based on Ford’s NASCAR racing engine. It retains the Ford mill’s deck height and bore centers, but the block has been redesigned and cast in aluminum rather than steel, a move that Saleen vice-president of engineering Bill Tally says saves about 150 pounds."
So what engine does Ford use for NASCAR?
Go down where it talks about the engine specs.
It says, "Saleen/Allen Speedlab race team engine builder, Bill Tally, is the engine's designer. Based on a Ford-cast all aluminum block re-engineered by Saleen, the cam-in-block 7-litre motor generates 550 horsepower at 6400 rpm."
But what engine block cast is it of off? 351?
Here's another http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=6735
"The massive 7.0-liter V-8 engine is assembled in a squeaky-clean room that’s appropriately dubbed the Speedlab. The motor is loosely based on Ford’s NASCAR racing engine. It retains the Ford mill’s deck height and bore centers, but the block has been redesigned and cast in aluminum rather than steel, a move that Saleen vice-president of engineering Bill Tally says saves about 150 pounds."
So what engine does Ford use for NASCAR?
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