Mach 1 Selecting the Right Intake

Mach428 · May 22, 2005

Hey everyone, I'm looking to get an Intake for my car. In the past I had bought the K&N aircharger which turned out to be no good due to the Elimination on the MAF Screen which caused to car to stall after hard acceleration and lights. If enyone could make a suggestion as to what intake would work nicely with the car and maybe even provide a link as to where they got the intake, it would be a great help. Another question I have is, would anyone suggest I bring my car to a shop and get a dyno tune once I get an Intake...Thats for the help.

ftctoolftc · May 23, 2005

definitely check out the C&L or the JLT.

Crzyhrse · May 23, 2005

People are talking alot of smack about how the C@L is junk. Sounds to me like they don't know how to install it and have it dialed in when they go to a dyno to get it tuned with their Predator or other tuning device. I put my C@L in lst week and it runs smooth. The idle is smooth as glass and it has'nt stalled yet like what happened with my K@N CAI ALL the time. I'm going to get my C@L tuned in on the Dyno tomorrow to get the A/F dialed in correct, and play with the timing also. It should run even better after that.

TR03Mach1 · May 23, 2005

I was one of the first to go with the complete C&L Mach 1 package, air box to throttle body, last August. I haven't had one problem with this setup and I'm running a 75 shot of nitrous through it. I think some people just have no clue what the hell they're doing, and screw the install up, although it really isn't rocket science.

Give Me TP · May 23, 2005

TR03Mach1 said:
I was one of the first to go with the complete C&L Mach 1 package, air box to throttle body, last August. I haven't had one problem with this setup and I'm running a 75 shot of nitrous through it. I think some people just have no clue what the hell they're doing, and screw the install up, although it really isn't rocket science.

My experience with it exactly. I can't see from your pic, but do you also have the C&L 85mm MAF housing?

Guyster03Mach · May 23, 2005

I have the complete C&L with 85 MAF housing. Absolutely zero stalling issues, smooth idle and can feel a SOTP gain. It was a great addition to the Prochamber midpipe and LM1 catback. I would recommend strongly.

TR03Mach1 · May 23, 2005

Give Me TP said:
My experience with it exactly. I can't see from your pic, but do you also have the C&L 85mm MAF housing?

Yup, it's in the sig.

Crzyhrse · May 23, 2005

Well, I got my Mach dynoed today, and with my only new mod being the C@L 85 MM MAF and the Inlet Tube, I gained 3HP and 3TQ, which is'nt great or anything, but when I factor in it does'nt stall anymore like my K@N CAI did, and the idle is smooth, and the response seems quicker, then I'd say it was worth it. I'm sure that with headers, or Nitrous, or a blower, you would probably see better results, but I'm still happy with it.

ttown · May 24, 2005

Here's a dyno of my car with 2000 miles on it with a K&N filter vs. C&L/K&N combo. Needless to say it made my car way to lean. If your running rich the C&L will make more HP by leaning the car out, if your about right or a hair on the lean side watch out.

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums...tachmentid=3688

twogts4us · May 26, 2005

Crzyhrse said:
Well, I got my Mach dynoed today, and with my only new mod being the C@L 85 MM MAF and the Inlet Tube, I gained 3HP and 3TQ, which is'nt great or anything, but when I factor in it does'nt stall anymore like my K@N CAI did, and the idle is smooth, and the response seems quicker, then I'd say it was worth it. I'm sure that with headers, or Nitrous, or a blower, you would probably see better results, but I'm still happy with it.

Wow, 3 whole HP - I'm so impressed. One day you'll get a clue and realize the C&L MAF is simply an expensive aluminum tube that leans the motor out. A good tune can do that more effectively, safely. What exactly do you think this C&L MAF is doing for you, besides leaning the motor out?

Crzyhrse · May 26, 2005

Other than the reasons for liking it already listed, any major performance mods made in the future, I think the C@L will be a benefit. For now, my Mach is running the best it has in the short 9 months I've owned it.

Give Me TP · May 27, 2005

twogts4us said:
Wow, 3 whole HP - I'm so impressed. One day you'll get a clue and realize the C&L MAF is simply an expensive aluminum tube that leans the motor out. A good tune can do that more effectively, safely. What exactly do you think this C&L MAF is doing for you, besides leaning the motor out?

294 HP @ 6200
308 TQ @ 4250

Not with a C&L MAF, rather a C&L MAF housing. It will allow more airflow in, with the obvious result being a leaner A/F ratio. Good tuning in my case has put this higher flow to use while keeping the A/F ratio at 12.5 - 13.0.

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