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SHIMM THE EGR???

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A friend said Ford had issues with aftermarket evp's so he said they would shimm the sensor or grind the pintle......He like's beer alot so i'm not sure if he's just full of it. Anyway just wondering if any body has ever heard of this??

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Read the entire test path and you will find what you are looking for...

Code 34 Or 334 - EGR voltage above closed limit - Failed sensor, carbon between EGR pintle valve and seat holding the valve off its seat. Remove the EGR valve and clean it with carbon remover. Prior to re-installing see if you can blow air through the flange side of the EGR by mouth. If it leaks, there is carbon stuck on the pintle valve seat, replace the EGR valve ($85-$95).

If the blow by test passes, and you have replaced the sensor, then you have electrical ground problems. Check the resistance between the black/white wire on the MAP/BARO sensor and then the black/white wire on the EGR and the same wire on the TPS. It should be less than 1.5 ohm. Next check the resistance between the black/white wire and the negative battery post. It should be less than 1.5 ohm.

Note that all resistance tests must be done with power off. Measuring resistance with a circuit powered on will give false readings and possibly damage the meter.

Let’s put on our Inspector Gadget propeller head beanies and think about how this works:
The EGR sensor is a variable resistor with ground on one leg and Vref (5 volts) on the other. Its’ resistance ranges from 4000 to 5500 Ohms measured between Vref & ground, depending on the sensor. The center connection of the variable resistor is the slider that moves in response to the amount of vacuum applied. The slider has some minimum value of resistance greater than 100 ohms so that the computer always sees a voltage present at its’ input. If the value was 0 ohms, there would be no voltage output. Then the computer would not be able to distinguish between a properly functioning sensor and one that had a broken wire or bad connection. The EGR I have in hand reads 700 Ohms between the slider (EPV) and ground (SIG RTN) at rest with no vacuum applied. The EGR valve or sensor may cause the voltage to be above closed limits due to the manufacturing tolerances that cause the EGR sensor to rest at a higher position than it should.



This will affect idle quality by diluting the intake air charge
 

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I have a buddy who's a total whiz (and R&D/prototype machinist) and he had to do something very very similar on his son's Stang. It was the only way to calibrate the sensor (IIRC, the EGR had a slightly worn seat).

Good luck.
 

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HISSIN50 said:
I have a buddy who's a total whiz (and R&D/prototype machinist) and he had to do something very very similar on his son's Stang. It was the only way to calibrate the sensor (IIRC, the EGR had a slightly worn seat).

Good luck.
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Thank's, was just wondering if this was going to be a possibility if i needed to replace the evp.
 
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