i agree w/ hoboat...loud as hell when you gun it! bbk's, h-pipe, and flows is what i'm running....people say long tube is better, if we are talking 50 hp difference then go long tubes but the margin between the two is not that huge! if you and another car have the same set-up but he has long tubes, the difference will be the DRIVER...IMO! its your money do what you like...good luck