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Progress Thread Snow - 93 GT Vert. Prepping for sale

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JAA

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Surface rust is funny

Before and after. Just used a little pb blaster on a rag, then scotch pad, then rewiped with pb blaster

 

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Should I invest time and elbow grease into these carbon buildups in the cylinder head? If so, what should I used? Brass wire brush? Just scotch pad? Razor?
 

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Anyone know where I put my new set of arp head bolts?!?
 

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Swap the rockers and typically you should be fine with stock push rods on a GT40 swap. However, that will depend on how much they have to take off the heads when they surface them. Always check for correct pushrod length. Carbon build up at the top of the cylinder is best left alone. It’s going to build up again so not really worth the hassle of messing with it.

I’m gonna guess the head studs are on the lower shelf of one of the benches. Better question is where is the packet of molly grease? Also, did you remember the thread sealer for all the bottom bolts?
 
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Heads off to be resurfaced ($240)

Threads chased and surface rust cleaned up. Wiped down with PB plaster. Nice shine

 
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Heads back. Only 7 thousands taken off.

 

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So clean and ready to install.
 
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Mount heads is next. Any other cleaning I should think about? I hope not!

Ill wipe down block with clean cloth, then parts cleaner with another clean cloth wipe down. Then gasket, heads, then bolts. Ill be watching plenty of videos on head mounting. Im sure folks here have their methods.

Any gotcha's other than those 2 aluminum dowel things per head which hold the gasket in place? Any RTV needed for the heads?
 

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No RTV, pay attention to the gaskets as they are marked front so that end goes to the front of the motor, and wipe the head surfaces down as well.
 
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Torque step 50-60-70

Bolt order from book (looking down at head):
9-5-1-3-7
10-6-2-4-8
 

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BTW - at machine shop this morning guy was working on a Ford 289 from Mustangs 95-whatever.

Had 4 valves per cylinder, 4 cams, master and slave timing chains. Oh, and not one pushrod apparently. That thing looked ... busy. No thank you
 

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I like this guy for my valve train adjustment. Even has my springs kit

This guy is pretty good too, but I think less stock parts
 

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Anyone ever used this method for valve adjustment? Seems simpler. Though point/position 2 has no cylinder with both valves being done. Weird.

 

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As long as its on the base circle of the cam.... A bump switch on the starter relay makes doing them easy...
 
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JAA said:
Anyone ever used this method for valve adjustment? Seems simpler. Though point/position 2 has no cylinder with both valves being done. Weird.

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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but.....

Isn't that misleading with the left hand column being labeled 302? Shouldn't it designate that that is for non-HO motors? Don't 5.0 HO motors belong in the right hand column, since they have the 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 firing order?
 

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rednotch said:
As long as its on the base circle of the cam.... A bump switch on the starter relay makes doing them easy...
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@JAA
If you do not have a bump switch (which are awesome) pull the plugs so its easier to roll the motor over by hand.

85GTStangGuy said:
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but.....

Isn't that misleading with the left hand column being labeled 302? Shouldn't it designate that that is for non-HO motors? Don't 5.0 HO motors belong in the right hand column, since they have the 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 firing order?
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Yes sir, 302 roller cam motors are on the 351W firing order.
 
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Bolts never came with last shipment. Summit did me right.

 

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@JAA
If you do not have a bump switch (which are awesome) pull the plugs so its easier to roll the motor over by hand.



Yes sir, 302 roller cam motors are on the 351W firing order.
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Thank you both. I would fd that up
 
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So with the felpro gasket I just flip it over as needed? Front says front? Also, one of the jackets doesn’t align exactly. I’m assuming that’s OK?

Cleaned head, then gasket, then closeup of off jacket


 

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Gasket will block off some of the water ports. Front goes to front and remember to bring the bolts up to torqued spec on three steps. Put sealant on the shorter bolts as they go into the water jacket. When you have it all torqued up let it sit overnight then final torque the head bolts one more time.

I usually let the motor heat cycle once or twice then pull the valve covers and final torque again.

Are you going to stud the lower intake?
 
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