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88 Fox GT

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I was looking at it today thinking about throwing it in the trash since I deleted my smog pump when installing the off road pipe. I read in a post that jrichker said it can make your car smell like gas if you remove it and it also helps richen the fuel mixture when cruising.

Anyone removed it with no negative effects?
 

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That can catches and stores evaproated fuel from the gas tank. Without that can the fuel vapors would leak directly to the air. Yes it can make the car stink of fuel, especially on hot days.

There is NO benefit to removing it.
If you don't like the way it looks, then move it to the out board side of the inner fenderwell.
I suggest moving it rather than deleting it.

jason
 

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Jason is right-on. Keep it around, albeit it out of sight (SN95's put it inside the fenderwell OEM). On the SN's, the purge line comes through behind the pass. strut tower and runs along the firewall till it goes to the intake. You could kind of mimic something like that if you desired.

Good luck.
 

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Hey, thanks guys. I'd rather not have my car smell like gas all the time, so I might just move it or something. Doesn't bother me too much, just one of those things I was looking at and wanted to know how much I needed it.
 

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The previous owner of my car deleted the charcoal canister in my car. Every now and again it smells of raw fuel, but not too often. Honestly I didn't know it was missing untill I noticed the plugs in the intake.
 
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I have noticed my car smells of a fowl fuel smell on hot days once it has heated up and I am at a stop sign for a few seconds and I have been trying to trace it down - My vacuum hoses are connected to the intake, cannister, cannister to hose to tower, under car and back etc... no breaks in the hoses were found and the wiring is hooked up to the cannister purge valve - no codes showing -- any ideas on what I can do to stop this sickening smell on hot days? Do I need a NEW cannister?
 

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bsedwebt70-5.0 said:
I have noticed my car smells of a fowl fuel smell on hot days once it has heated up and I am at a stop sign for a few seconds and I have been trying to trace it down - My vacuum hoses are connected to the intake, cannister, cannister to hose to tower, under car and back etc... no breaks in the hoses were found and the wiring is hooked up to the cannister purge valve - no codes showing -- any ideas on what I can do to stop this sickening smell on hot days? Do I need a NEW cannister?
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Running dino fuel rather than chicken fuel might help.

Give the cannister a once-over for signs of wetness. Also check the vac line to the FPR - if the FPR diaphram took a poopie, that can lead to a fuel smell inside the car.

Good luck.
 
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I tossed mine. Needed the space for a catch can. No ill effects.

-Matthew
 

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i removed mine with the smog stuff, its a carbed 82', and made no difference, when i changed intakes and smog the lines went nowhere anyway, so i cut em

~Mark~
 

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Chicken Fuel
LOL
 

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whne i was N/A i put mine in my fenderwell so it was out of sight. now with my turbo kit i could not find a place to put it with all the plumbing under the hood so i just ditched it. i capped off the line that runs to the tank and put on a vented gas cap (well i actually havn't put the cap on yet but i will once its runing again lol)

i see several turbomustangs like this
 

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mine has been long gone and I live in Florida and on hot days mine doesn't smell like gas?? and the car runs great...
 

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I removed it a long tiem ago, Cut the hose going to the tank, exposed the hose to the atmosphere and that was that! Car doesnt smell of fuel. junked everything else, Just my opinion.
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Keep in mind guys that the line running to the tank is venting raw gasoline fumes, which are explosive in the right concentration.

The charcoal canister is filled with...you guessed it..charcoal, which acts as an absorbant of the gas vapor reducing it's explosive properties. The charcoal canister vents to the intake where spent vapors are ignited in the engine.

So all you guys that removed that canister are now venting explosive gas vapors in your car. I've never heard of anyones car exploding...but i wouldn't want to be the first
 
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HA, HA!!!! "FOWL" fuel odor = chicken vs. dino fuel -- you crack me up =) get it - crack me up - chicken... egg.... geez - I'm corny -- get it - corny - chickens eat corn.... DOH! -- Seriously though -- I have a new AFPR by Kirban and there is no wetness on the cannister and all the vacuum lines look good and line back to tank is good too - I had to repair it a few months back when the subframe connectors were installed (part of it melted by accident from welding heat). I hate this smell!
 

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You dont have any leaks at the tank (on top or the filler grommet)? It's gotta be somewhere but since it evaps so fast, it can he hard to find (I chased a fuel smell on the '94 when I got it, in much the same manner).

BTW, after reading that last post, you must be good at those games where you link movies and actors together.
 
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Hey - it depends on the movie I guess.... but I am still chasing the smell - seems to be on hot days and the smell is not like that of fresh raw fuel but an old musty type raw fuel vapor smell - hard to describe other than "fowl" without feathers and wings... which leads me to believe it has to be coming from the crank case somehow not the fuel filler neck... would the PCV system smell like this and I am chasing the wrong thing? The PCV valve and filter is new as well as the tubes that go to it when the motor was rebuilt 5 months/5k miles ago
 

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monte87 said:
I removed it a long tiem ago, Cut the hose going to the tank, exposed the hose to the atmosphere and that was that! Car doesnt smell of fuel. junked everything else, Just my opinion.
Ant
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x2. ditch it and dont look back. i dont know where these people come up with the idea that the cabin is going to stink of raw fuel. your going to smell the fumes from an off road h/x pipe more than the charcoal canister missing. thats probably what everyone is smelling.
 

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i removed mine with the air pump and egr system. doesnt smell in the car or outside around the car. and i get 28-30 mpg highway. no cods, no idle issuses, nothing.
 

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95cobraguy said:
x2. ditch it and dont look back. i dont know where these people come up with the idea that the cabin is going to stink of raw fuel. your going to smell the fumes from an off road h/x pipe more than the charcoal canister missing. thats probably what everyone is smelling.
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Its all theoretical.... It can happen, but doesnt. I ripped mine off because it went bad, not for any other reason. But once i did-I trashed everything that went with it, being my car has no emmissions crap anymore. And when it wnet bad-It wreaked of raw fuel under the hood, i thought i had a bad injector or regulator, Once it was gone, Done-no more smell. I get a little fuel odor near the rear wheel well-Where its vented to, but nothing major. It actually cleaned up my engine bay-I have to say!
So-i would say-Toss it if it goes bad, but leave it if its working properly, ya know-Unless you want to spend the cabbage for thenew one. All and all-Its upto you.

Later Anthony
 
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