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suki243

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Hey guys, I just got my car bak from the paint shop and it looks really good! Now I'm trying to protect it from getting into other people's hands.

1. It has an alarm system but it kinda sucks, Whenever I activate it it ends up draining the battery almost to the point where the car can't start.

2. I installed hood locks (not pins but the ones that actually lock) on the car but I highly doubt that will do much.

Now, I was debating on a kill switch, What would be a better one? a. Right before the ignition like between the battery's lead to the ignition? or b. have a shut off switch for the battery and the entire car? ( that kinda kills the alarm system too)

I was also wondering is it possible to install a type of sifter that somewhat detaches. Similar to what they sell for steering wheels, the quick release. Well I spent 100$ on an original looking steering wheel but only a few hours after i received it did i come across grant's detachable steering wheel. (it'd be pretty funny, you peer into the car and bam! no steering wheel) on the flip side, it'd be a hassle to carry around all the time.
 

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I installed a kill switch on my car. I've got it wired into the coil, so it cuts power to the coil. The car can be turned over but will not start without that switch being thrown.

I've got an alarm as well, and it has it's own starter disable system, but it doesn't work right. Does everything else like it's supposed to just not the starter kill part.

I've never seen a quick disconnect for the shifter.
 
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I've never seen a quick disconnect for the shifter.
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Yah, It was just something I thought about, like you can start it but it can't go anywhere and you can't put it in neutral and push it out
 

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i have the grant vehicle security system, and it is great. i just put the steering wheel in the trunk.
 

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-Hidden fuel shutoff valve between the tank and the pump. This has the added benefit of letting the thief start the car and start to drive away before it dies, making him more conspicuous as he's stalled in the middle of the street.

-Kill switch on the coil. Only downside is it is easy to see and bypass for a thief who knows what he is doing.

-Take the rotor with you when you leave the car parked. It's a hassle, but it would take a thief a while to figure out what the problem is, at which point he would have to go down to CarQuest to complete his theft. Most thiefs wouldn't bother...
 
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I was thinking about the hidden fuel shut off valve , but others that suggested it talked said it required an electrical fuel pump and I have the stock one. Do they sell the electric valve in which I can then place a rocker switch underneath the dash or something?

And I forget but does the grant security system only work with grant steering wheels? I'm pretty sure thats the case. And does anyone know of a similar device?
 

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I remember seeing a locking shifter handle for mustangs, but don't remember where.
 

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Skymarshal said:
-Hidden fuel shutoff valve between the tank and the pump. This has the added benefit of letting the thief start the car and start to drive away before it dies, making him more conspicuous as he's stalled in the middle of the street.

-Kill switch on the coil. Only downside is it is easy to see and bypass for a thief who knows what he is doing.

-Take the rotor with you when you leave the car parked. It's a hassle, but it would take a thief a while to figure out what the problem is, at which point he would have to go down to CarQuest to complete his theft. Most thiefs wouldn't bother...
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The kill switch is a micro switch hidden in the drivers compartment, and the wiring for it is traceable, but so far under the dash that they'd it'd take some serious effort and a diagram to find it.
 

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suki243 said:
I was thinking about the hidden fuel shut off valve , but others that suggested it talked said it required an electrical fuel pump and I have the stock one. Do they sell the electric valve in which I can then place a rocker switch underneath the dash or something?
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If you're running an electric fuel pump, you can just wire in a switch on its power lead. You don't need an electric valve.

For the stock fuel pump, I'm just talking about a manual valve located somewhere along the supply line. There's a short length of flexible tubing linking two hard lines under the rocker panel abeam the driver's seat- it wouldn't be too hard to plumb in a valve there with the knob sticking through the floorboard and hidden under the seat.
 

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suki243 said:
I was thinking about the hidden fuel shut off valve , but others that suggested it talked said it required an electrical fuel pump and I have the stock one. Do they sell the electric valve in which I can then place a rocker switch underneath the dash or something?

And I forget but does the grant security system only work with grant steering wheels? I'm pretty sure thats the case. And does anyone know of a similar device?
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you should be able to adapt other aftermarket wheels to the grant system. just use a little ingenuity.
 

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http://home.teleport.com/~cosa/vap/TLock.htm

Locking shifter handle. Never tried it. Just found it on the web.
 
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I'm thinking of going with fuel line one or the t-lock.

T-lock, A: can't shift, can't put it in neutral and roll back nothing. D: Not sure how much work it really needs to install it, no one seems to have used it before.

Fuel Line: A. starts but doesn't go anywhere, Easy to install, Really Cheap. D: Easy to forget to engage the lock or block, You can still roll it

Steering wheel:A. Can move the car, start the car, but can't turn the car... looks hilarious to me. D: Expensive, If someone sees you putting the steering wheel in the trunk, jig's up, Not sure how to get it to work with an original steering wheel.
 
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Update for T-lock: I checked it out and tried to email them but i got this
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

info@vintage-automotive.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 13): 550 unrouteable address
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suki243 said:
Update for T-lock: I checked it out and tried to email them but i got this

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check NPD they had it in there catalog the last time I checked.
 
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there are a ton of folks on the VMF who have used the T-lock and love it.
 
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Just installed the T-lok locking shifter. Easy to install. Just like the original shift handle. About the only way to defeat it is to use an allen wrench to remove the locking screw...just like the original handle.

Mike
 
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I downloaded and searched the NPD catalog and couldn't find the T-lock shifter, I'll call em cause NPD is an hour drive and i'd like it as soon as possible, my mind is not at ease knowing the car is sitting at the mall or the lot (if i'm lucky)
 

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I too have a kill switch, but its located up underneath the steering column to prevent someone from opening the hood and cross starting it. Also, I bought a hood release cable set up from a 70 sumthin lincoln and that keeps the hood secure from anyone opening it. I have a club steering wheel lock and a lock for the brake pedal . Am I over reacting? Since pretty red car sits out on a college campus near Los Angeles. Hell when this car gets restored im getting lojak.
 

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I'm thinking about installing a sureveillance system with a DVR. Go to Costco.com and search 'security' you'll see some affordable multicamera kits as low as $349, though I haven't researched them yet. I'd probably add in a covert camera.
 
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haha same here, a beautiful 66 mustang with fresh alpine white paint and two candy apple red stripes, sitting in either a high school parking lot or a mall parking lot in Los Angeles, tempting.
Whenever I drive it all eyes are on it, its cool but still scary.

Currently I have a club steering wheel, hood locks, and an after market security system that sucks up the battery.

Sometimes I am like before I leave it sitting there I should pull off the cable that goes from from the igniter to the distributor cap... but i guess i have to trust
 
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