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Speed Bleeders with Baer Brakes

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66 Restomod

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I have a 12" Sport Baer kit on my 66 in the front and rear. I'd like to install some Speed Bleeders. From my discussions with Baer, their bleed valves are all the same on their calipers. So it would seem that there is one part number for the Speed Bleeders that will fit all Baer brakes? Has anyone installed these valves on their Baer brakes and if so do you have the Speed Bleeder part number? Thanks.
 

rbohm

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bleeder valve come in a few different sizes. the easy way is to take a bleeder valve from your caliper down to the parts store, and match up what you need.
 

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Go to the SpeedBleeder website, go to Automotive applications - there is a category for Baer Brakes - one bleeder size does not fit all Baer Brake calipers, you need to select between the Alcan and PBR calipers - http://www.speedbleeder.com/automobile_applications.htm
 
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why would you need speed bleeders? track ride? I use the $6 cup (bong like contraption....lol.) that some fluid goes in and acts like a chec valve. once a year does good by me.
 

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Confusion...

The Speed Bleeder site appears to be inaccurate. Baer told me today that the valves they use are M10 x 1.0 x 31.35mm in length. This is at least for the PBR single valve calipers I have (from what I can tell).

So the Speed Bleeder part number should be SB1010S, but the Speed Bleeder site lists the longer SB1010. And in fact they list the longer one for the dual valve Alcon Baer brakes only, and an entirely different number for the PBR brakes.

On top of that, local chain stores sell the Speed Bleeders through those red "Help!" packages (although the local chain stores have no clue what a Speed Bleeder is) and they have different part numbers and -- wait for it -- they have rounded up the lengths on the packages.

I ordered part number 12706 through those red packaged (officially licensed) versions and pick em up tomorrow morning. From there I go to the shop to continue working on the car (finish installing the brakes among many other things). I'll update tomorrow whether or not I'm successful for anyone else someday that needs this info.

I'm buying them so I can bleed the brakes when needed (Baer recommends multiple times the first few weeks of use) and through Advanced Auto they run only $10-$12 per pair. I guess they are overkill but not by much.
 

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Update

Here's a pic of the Speed Bleeders I used for the Baer brakes with PBR calipers. I retyped the part number in the pic (Help! number 12706) since the pic was fuzzy. The smaller silver valve and the black cap are stock PBR. The gold anodized valves are the Speed Bleeders. (Speed Bleeders are sending me some caps.) They look a little different, but the threads and below are the same. I haven't bled the brakes yet; still have to flare the hardlines. The front PBRs are 3-4 years old; the rears are new, same valves at all 4 corners. (BTW, I think the 33mm measurement is actually correct for these bleeders and not rounded up. I was surprised to see them look different than what I took off.)

(Edit: Also, I bought them at Carquest for about 12.50. The ones Advanced Auto ordered for me at 10.50 were open and dirty. I didn't accept them.)
 

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Cyclone

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Click on this link...........
http://www.fly-ford.com/MM0706-How_To_Choose_and_Bleed_Brake_Fluid.html
 

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Great link!

Thanks!

I had bought the Valvoline fluid they recommend just by luck. Just found someone yesterday with a good double flare tool to do the shortened stainless hard lines for me. (With the car at the paint shop, there's plenty of stuff to do to keep busy.)
 

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I wish I would have used speed bleeders when I did the Baer brake convertion because my system was all new and dry...Took forever to get all the air out. You'll like your baers!
 

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Please update us after you get the speed bleeders installed and have used them. I'm considering them also, but I need 8.

Tim
 
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