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I have a 91 LX 5.0 with t/5

My speedometer wasn't working so I took the dash apart and found it wasnt plugged in. I drove the car around with no cluster and watched the cable rotate. Then I plugged it into the cluster and still nothing happening. The end of my cable that plugs into the speedo is like a inch long white plastic square it comes to a point at an end. The best way to describe it is that it looks like a miniture washington monument.

My question is how does this connect to the black needle at the back of the cluster?
 

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IIRC it just plugs in. Are the edges on the plastic shaft rounded out? There should also be a white head clip that holds the cable to your cluster. Is that there? On your Speedo Cluster, is it rounded out in there are broke? If its spinning, your speedo sensor is good.
 

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The clip is there. Where it plugs into the cluster in the center is a black pin I just dont how they hook up. Am I missing something?
 

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I took this from a similar thread, hope this helps. Hope jrichker doesn't mind me quoting it lol

jrichker said:
Speedometer cable replacement for 87-93 Mustangs

Revised 12-Jun-2009 to break out separate sections for removal and replacement of the housing and inner cable assembly or only the inner cable.

How the speedometer works:
The indicator pointer has no direct connection to the speedo cable. It uses a drum with magnets on it to couple to the pointer. The drum turns and tries to twist the circular steel disk that is mounted on the pointer spindle. The magnetic force is all that connects the drum to the circular disk.

Lubrication warnings
Use a graphite based lubricant for the speedo cable. It is available at most auto parts stores in a very small tube. Lubricate only the lower half of the cable. The reason for this is that if you use too much lubricant, it works its way up into the speed head and gets between the rotating magnet and the drum. This causes the speedo to seize up and wring the indicator needle off the indicator spindle.


Speedometer cable replacement.

Note: All 89-93 cars have a VSS sensor even if they do not have cruse control. The 87-88 only have a VSS sensor if the have cruse control.

Speedo cable housing assembly without cruse control:
View attachment 133894

The VSS equipped cars have a speedo cable with a different fitting on the transmission end of the cable. It is the fitting on the LH side of the following picture.

Speedo cable housing assembly with cruse control
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Preparation: if you are only going to replace the inner part of the speedo cable, get lots of newspaper or a painter’s drop cloth to cover the inside front of the car. About the time you have the dirty, oily speedo cable core all over your lap and the inside of the car, you will thank me for this suggestion.

Replacing only the inner cable: see steps 1- 6, 12, 13, 17-21

Replacing the housing and inner cable as an assembly: see steps 1-11, 13-21

Inside the car:
1.) Remove the shield around the steering column that covers the ignition switch & turn indicator switch.
2.) You now have access to the two screws that hold the lower part of the cluster housing in place. Remove them and place them in a zip bag.
3.) Use a stubby or an offset Philips screwdriver to remove the two screws on the top of the cluster housing. The screws are up close to the windshield, so they can be hard to get at.
4.) The cluster housing will now slide forward: depending on your particular car, you may or may not have to disconnect the wiring for the headlights, hazard lights, or cluster wiring. All of the wiring uses plastic connectors with plastic spring clips on them. To release the connectors, lift the plastic clips and pull straight back.
5.) The speedo cable is secured in the speedo head by a white plastic clip. Depress the clip or squeeze it and pull the cable out of the speedo head. This can be tricky, but it will come out if you have the white clip depressed enough.

Speedo head cable clip

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6.) With speedo cable removed from the speedo head, try twisting the cable end with your fingers. If it turns more than 1/4 turn, the cable may either be broken or you have damage at the other end where the cable mates to the VSS sensor or speedo pickup gear in the transmission.

Outside the car, replacing the cable housing assembly.
The following steps are necessary only if you plan on replacing the cable & cable housing assembly.
7.) If you are going to the replace the cable housing, the next step is important. Tie a study string or wire to the VSS sensor end of the cable housing. This string or wire is to be used to fish the cable housing back through the maze of wires that is under the dash. If all you are going to do is replace the inner cable, you can omit this step.
8.) Jack up the car, all 4 tires must be off the ground. Place jackstands under the car for safety.
9.) Locate the VSS sensor on the driver’s side of the transmission tailshaft housing. The speedo cable housing will be secured in the VSS sensor with a hairpin clip Do not remove the clip!!!: The hairpin clip stays in place. If you remove it, the odds are that you will not be able to get the cable to stay in place on re-installation. Pull firmly straight back on the cable housing and it will come out. A considerable amount of effort may be required to get the cable out of the VSS sensor, but it will pull out.
10.) Release the cable housing from the clips that secure it to the car body.

Inside the car:
11.) The housing assembly can then be pulled out and the fish string or wire can be removed from the old cable housing and secured to the new one.
12.) The inner cable can be removed by pulling it out of the housing assembly. Watch out for the lubricant so that you don’t get it on the car’s interior.
13.) Lubricate only the lower part of the new cable with speedometer lubricant or graphite. Don’t use too much lubricant, or it will work its way up into the speedo head unit and damage it. Thread the inner cable into the housing, turning it as you go. When you are all the way in with the new cable, it will engage the VSS sensor and stop turning.

Outside the car, replacing the cable housing assembly.
The following steps are necessary only if you plan on replacing the cable & cable housing assembly.
14.) Use the fish string or wire to feed the cable housing assembly through the dash wiring and out the cable hole in the firewall.
15.) Secure the cable in the body clips, making sure that the cable isn’t rubbing against the exhaust pipe.
16.) Push the cable housing assembly into the VSS sensor until it snaps in past the hairpin clip.

Inside the car:
17.) Push the cable housing back into the speedo head unit. You should be able to feel the white clip click into place.
18.) Reconnect all the wires & connectors on the speedo head unit.
19.) Re-install the cluster unit in the dash & tighten the 4 screws that hold it in place.
20.) Re-install the cover for the ignition switch & turn signal.
21.) If the car is up on jackstands, start the car, place it in gear & watch the speedo to see if it works OK. If you didn’t jack the car up, take a test drive.
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Good thread sorry for jumping in but my Speedo head in the cluster just started reading very high and bouncing around is there any way to rebuild the head or am I sol...
 

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Good thread sorry for jumping in but my Speedo head in the cluster just started reading very high and bouncing around is there any way to rebuild the head or am I sol...
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Read the post just above yours. It has most of what is needed to fix common speedo problems. If you have changed to a different tire size, that can affect speedo readings.
 

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No it won't it was all correct before I pulled the dash to paint the car. All I did was put the dash back in. Now the Speedo is way f***ed up. Idk I'm out of ideas.
 

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If you are out of ideas, then follow the advice given here. Dirt , grease or oil between the magnetic drum of the speedometer and the disc can cause the speedometer to read high. Try cleaning it with a light treatment of brake parts cleaner. Be careful not to get it on the plastic parts, since it is a strong solvent and may damage them.

There is a speedometer shop in Orlando on west Colonial Drive (SR 50) between Mills ave and SR 434. They can tell you how far your speedometer is out of calibration.

A Aairs Speedometer Service
1526 E Colonial Dr, Orlando, FL 32803
(407) 896-4661
 

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Well thank you for the advice I'll try cleaning it first. If it does not work then I'm considering the summit part 800601 comes with everything that I need. The car is a restomod, I just can't spend a ton of money doin it.
 

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Well thank you for the advice I'll try cleaning it first. If it does not work then I'm considering the summit part 800601 comes with everything that I need. The car is a restomod, I just can't spend a ton of money doin it.
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I'm not impressed...



You're going to have a mess with the installation unless you are really good with electrical stuff - 90% or more of the guys here on Stangnet aren't. Maybe you're the exception...
 

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I am not a fan of anything digital and your info can be off. I know its different, but on my '09 CBR, my MPH was off by a few, and the faster I went, the more off it was. This is why you have seen many vehicles still keep to a mechanical RPM gauge. While its cool, its not as accurate as mechanical gauges (MPH & RPM wise). I am not that technical with this stuff, but maybe it has to do with things changing faster than the digital display can actually read off.
 

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I'm an electrician I do everything from services to low voltage control work and plc's. I think I can handle some splicing. For the gauges they all work on pulses per.revolution the kit comes.with all necessary sending units for proper.installation. the factory tach is off by as much as 300 rpm anyway. And getting the right sending unit gear is never spot on unless your running stock size tires I won't notice 3mph.... I just don't see myself spending 700 to 1200 dollars for a Florida 5.0 instrument cluster. Even though they do look very nice.
 

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I'm an electrician I do everything from services to low voltage control work and plc's. I think I can handle some splicing. For the gauges they all work on pulses per.revolution the kit comes.with all necessary sending units for proper.installation. the factory tach is off by as much as 300 rpm anyway. And getting the right sending unit gear is never spot on unless your running stock size tires I won't notice 3mph.... I just don't see myself spending 700 to 1200 dollars for a Florida 5.0 instrument cluster. Even though they do look very nice.
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Evidently you are the exception, so have fun.
 

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a91what said:
I'm an electrician I do everything from services to low voltage control work and plc's. I think I can handle some splicing. For the gauges they all work on pulses per.revolution the kit comes.with all necessary sending units for proper.installation. the factory tach is off by as much as 300 rpm anyway. And getting the right sending unit gear is never spot on unless your running stock size tires I won't notice 3mph.... I just don't see myself spending 700 to 1200 dollars for a Florida 5.0 instrument cluster. Even though they do look very nice.
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Or just go to your junk yard and get a replacement that way? $20-30 or even less. There is even CL.
 

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I called all over down here.. there are non to be had. I found one guy who had one he wanted 250 for it. On eBay they run about 140.,
 

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Screw paying 250.
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I called all over down here.. there are non to be had. I found one guy who had one he wanted 250 for it. On eBay they run about 140.,
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The only advice I can give, is look at other major cities for someone who is parting out a Mustang, and ask them how much they will ship the whole bezel for. A buddy of mine had his shipped to him from a guy in KC for $75. $140 to me is still better than $260 while keeping an OEM look.
 

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I appreciate the advice. My better half wanted to update the look of the car she's the 1 who found the summit part. If she's happy I'm happy.
 

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Ok so after a few hours of fabrication I came up with this.
 

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Nice work, just not my cup of tee. Especially digital speedo and tach.

Electrical tape? That's not the only thing you used to fuse the wires together is it?
 
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