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Do you think it would kill anything? Only the flywheel is on the engine and it's supported with the stock supports and a rope so the engine won't drop. I need to finish the project and get the engine running but I don't have a manual flywheel yet and the clutch isn't here yet... Not that I'd rev the piss out of it, just to get it going a little.
 
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I do not see a problem doing that, it has been done many times before and it is done to motorcycle engines all the time, your situation is a little different but it should be possible and I cannot see what would cause any damage.
 

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yeah it's fine- too bad ford mounted the starter on the bell housing instead of the block...
 

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Well, I'm never short of a different opinion -- I'd wait. The engine makes a heck of a lot of torque, and it's designed to be constrained by the motor mounts AND the tranny mount in back. I'd want something a lot more secure than a rope -- so it's not just hanging off the front mounts. Be patient - you're almost there.

Curious though - how are you gonna mount the starter with no bell housing or crank it with no flywheel? And you wouldn't want to run it with no flywheel anyhow.
 

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Michael Yount said:
Curious though - how are you gonna mount the starter with no bell housing or crank it with no flywheel? And you wouldn't want to run it with no flywheel anyhow.
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I was thinking the same thing.
 

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You at least need a flywheel mounted as the engine uses the energy stored in it to carry the pistons through it's paces.
 

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he was saying that the flywheel is mounted on the engine so that isn't a problem. But you do need the tranny in place, you have to have the tranny mount to keep the engine from moving too much.
 

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I was faced with this scenario and decided NO, it will be too unstable and could invite catastrophy. Just my opinion.
 

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my 2 cents-if youve got the front of the motor supported well then it should be fine.I wrok on big rigs and when we do a clutch job we replace the rear main seal to make sure it doesnt leak we bolt the flywheel on and run it for 30 minutes.You cant rev them up or anything.The only thing that suports them in the back while you do this is a bottle jack on some 4x4.If youve got it out of the car then just be sure the front is supported very well.I might also add that big rigs have 3 engine mounts.1 in the front and 2 on the side either on the bellhousing or on the block.
I had a buddy that started up his motor on and engine stand without a flywheel.He said it worked fine untill he rev it up and it fell over forwards and hit the ground.Didnt hurt anything though.
 

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squeeeg said:
he was saying that the flywheel is mounted on the engine so that isn't a problem. But you do need the tranny in place, you have to have the tranny mount to keep the engine from moving too much.
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No, you don't need the transmission bolted in place, but I'd be interested to see where/how he'd mount the starter without the bell houseing?
 
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Michael Yount said:
Well, I'm never short of a different opinion -- I'd wait. The engine makes a heck of a lot of torque, and it's designed to be constrained by the motor mounts AND the tranny mount in back. I'd want something a lot more secure than a rope -- so it's not just hanging off the front mounts. Be patient - you're almost there.

Curious though - how are you gonna mount the starter with no bell housing or crank it with no flywheel? And you wouldn't want to run it with no flywheel anyhow.
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Yeeep.............

Besides there is a reason as to why the flywheel MUST be attatched to the engine to make it run properly. It is not just there to turn the engine via starter over but is a momentous force which while having all that mass of the flywhell spinning, it also helps keep the engine turning over and over and over - Don't do it.
 

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maybe he is going to hold the starter on the flyhwheel and tell his buddie to "CRANK IT!".....
 
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Flywheel is on... As for the starter I am king of bracketery and duct tape so don't doubt my skillz

But I didn't have time to do anything this weekend so I'll wait... I hate waiting though, I have doubts that the engine will run fine since I got a used carb and didn't rebuild it.
 

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While waiting for the rest of your parts, I suggest you aim your bracketry and duct tape skillz at rebuilding the carb.
 
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