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7-UP BILL

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Last weekend I started car for first time this year and took a 30 mile roundy w/ a 1hr stop halfway. When returning and trying to start, car just cranked (about 15 sec) until I depressed gas pedal. It started, but slowly then ran like usual the way home. I did use 1/2 tank gas for this trip. My mileage sux, but this is rediculous. FP was at 40. I took another look at it yesterday and noticed at (KOEO) that the FP spiked to 40 then slowly lowered to about 20. I turned key to crank and it started fine and FP went to 40. I have 30lb Ford injectors. Could they be leaking? That's my guess. Car is barely used, mostly show car, maybe 800 miles a year. Motor was modded about 15 years ago. Has always run top notch. Sorry for the wordy thread, just trying to give the most info. Any ideas?
 

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Do the usual thing - dump the codes...

size=3]Dumping the computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs[/size]

Revised 18-Mar-2011 to advise differences in code information for engine running and engine off codes.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.

Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

See Troublcodes.net Trouble Codes OBD & OBD2 Trouble Codes and Technical info & Tool Store. By BAT Auto Technical





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems. This is crucial: the same wire that provides the ground to dump the codes provides signal ground for the TPS, EGR, ACT and Map/Baro sensors. If it fails, you will have poor performance, economy and driveablity problems

Some codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
Or for a nicer scanner see http://www.midwayautosupply.com/p-7208-equus-digital-ford-code-reader-3145.aspx– It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
 

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I know it's a bit old this thread, but I did find the culprit. My Granatelli/Paxton FP regulator took a dump. It was 16 years old, but car had only about 10K in mileage in that time. I removed the vacuum line while it was running and fuel was pouring out of orifice. Removed upper "I" and cleaned everything. Bought a Kirban reg and everything is hunky dory now. jrichker, thanks for the reply.
 
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