steath stock combo opinions

Send thumper a set of gt40p's cut them .030. Run 12s all day. Get a mass air meter from a t-bird in the junkyard. It's the same 70mm they used in the cobras.

Thumper and tmoss combos ROCK!!! Cool??

I wouldn't bother with ford heads unless you were running a class . . .

get some windsor sr heads, all it takes is a die grinder and they look like a production head.



stock 92 shortblock
stock cam
1.7s
ported RPM-II
65mm throttle body
Roush 200 (windsor sr) heads ported by chris howe
1 5/8 shorties
2 1/2" flowmaster to 2 1/4" tailpipes
t5, 3.73s

sounded and idled like stock

gears

3.73s

Replace the 55mm Fox MAF with a 94/95 Stang GT 70MM MAF. It'll give you a _few_ (~3->7hp) more HP above ~3K for a *stock* engine. More of a HP gain for an engine with mods. Plus, I'll look close to stock.

t-bird and 93 cobra have the same 70mm mass air meter. Its a great stock upgrade.

Use the sensor off the factory meter in your car.

ttop88 said:

t-bird and 93 cobra have the same 70mm mass air meter. Its a great stock upgrade.

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Some T-birds have the same 70mm MAF as the 93 Cobra. That MAF is not useful at all for a stock system!

ttop88 said:

Use the sensor off the factory meter in your car.

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Please. NEVER EVER swap electronics on MAFs - NEVER! C&L is a joke company and their products are a huge joke. Every MAF electronic assembly must be custom tuned to a specific and unique MAF body. It's a PURE CR*P SHOOT swapping electronics to same exact style and model MAFs.

Plus, it makes no sense at all to swap the electronics between 2 different model MAFs. The air flow characteristics are all different. And the percentage of the air flow through the sensors are all different.


If someone could design it so that the required accuracy could be obtained without custom tunning the electronics, then DO IT and make a zillion-trillion dollars!

FWIW: I'm now doing my third first in a particular industry design that allows for the electronics to be custom tuned (without the $$ way that it used to be done, or the $$$ Auto OEMs do it). Custom tuning electronics have been done for many years. Actually, since the industry started. It's now becoming more common in more industries. Still, there is a *long* way to go (good for me I guess ).

A simple cheap 10-bit ADC (analog to digital converter) gives 1024 values over the voltage range. That's a means an accuracy of better than 0.1% is needed in the analog and other electronics if you don't want to just measure real-life tolerances (and noise). In reality, over temperature and voltage, that's very hard to do. That's why for when accuracy is needed in a more than a few units and they don't want to spend the $$ doing custom tuning the "old ways", they hire consultants ($$$$$ - but cheaper when spread out over _many_ units) like me.

FWIW: I can get a self contained "system on a chip" that has a 14-bit ADC (~16K values over the voltage range), CPU that executes ~5 million instructions per second, EEPROM (Flash), RAM, timers, and a ton of other good things for less than $5 - yes less than five dollars! But, getting overall analog accuracy (over temp, voltage, many units, etc) better than 1% (without high component costs) is still not common.
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