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Guero

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are thid any good http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-9...42611QQitemZ4624926220QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW ?
 

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Go Global West
 

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Those will work just fine..For the money you really can't go wrong....The tubing looks like almost .100 wall stuff...plenty rigid...
 

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ok thanks im not 100 percent sure but do they make the body stronger?
 

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Not really...There more for taking "roll" out of the body....Like when you hit a ramp at like 60 and you can feel the car roll bigtime....Slap those subs on and try the same thing...The car feels way more planted, roll is about gone....
I love em...hands down one of the best mods to me...makes the car handle sooo much better in the corners....
I didnt really notice it much better at the drags, but I did it to get rid of the body roll....

I used to hate hitting a corner and feel myself falling into the door panel...If you have it lowered, 17s on it, its only makes it better...My feeling after installing em was that my car handled like a sports car should...planted
 

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what you mean hit a ramp at 60? i have no idea what roll is?
 

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Guero said:
what you mean hit a ramp at 60? i have no idea what roll is?
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Body roll, you know how the car feells like it wants to flip when you turn really fast, this eleminates a good bit of that.
 

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oh i finally know what it means, i always hear people talking bout it but i never asked cuz i didn't want to look stupid
 

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Subframe connectors stiffen the frame of the car (unibody). So yes, they do make the body stronger. And my only thought on the link you are looking at is that you might just want to look at Global West or Maximum Motorsports connectors before you weld those on. Since this is a weld on modification, you only want to do it once - so don't skimp unless you will be confortable with that for a long time.

As far as this discussion of subframe connectors reducing body roll, I'm a bit confused. I could maybe see where you are coming from given that SF connectors reduce flex and allow the suspension to do its job better. But the biggest difference you will perceive with SF connectors has nothing to do with roll. The car will feel 100% stiffer over bumps and irregularities (especially if you have a 'vert). You will notice this in how the car squirrels around less, and how the front and back of the car no longer feel like they are moving independently of each other.

The modifications that WILL reduce roll are lowering (or coil over), poly bushings, and improved anti roll or sway bar upgrades. High quality shocks/struts can have a big impact on how the suspension responds - possibly reducing roll as well. In comparison to these mods, SF connectors do NOTHING for reducing roll.

Hope this helps.
 

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GRGT1994 said:
As far as this discussion of subframe connectors reducing body roll, I'm a bit confused. I could maybe see where you are coming from given that SF connectors reduce flex and allow the suspension to do its job better. But the biggest difference you will perceive with SF connectors has nothing to do with roll. The car will feel 100% stiffer over bumps and irregularities (especially if you have a 'vert). You will notice this in how the car squirrels around less, and how the front and back of the car no longer feel like they are moving independently of each other.
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flex would feel like 'roll' to some people, i can see where it would be perceived
 

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I went with the Maximum Motorsports SFC's, real nice pieces.
 

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I went with the Maximum Motorsports SFC's, real nice pieces.
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alot of welding but worth it
 

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tomustang said:
alot of welding but worth it
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How long (hours) does it take to weld in MM SFC's?
 

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The more spots that are welded the stronger and stiffer they will be.
 

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95GTV8 said:
How long (hours) does it take to weld in MM SFC's?
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I couldn't tell you cause I never timed myself, I had to streched it out thru 3 days because i was busy
 

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how many hours for a mechanic to do it, if you just had to throw out a guess?
 

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I paid $225 for my MM full length install.

The convertible costs more because you have to grind down the OEM brackets.

Plus the Full Lengths have all those little wings that have to be welded to the seat brackets.
 

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Henceforward said:
I paid $225 for my MM full length install.

The convertible costs more because you have to grind down the OEM brackets.

Plus the Full Lengths have all those little wings that have to be welded to the seat brackets.
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you're in the wrong section
 

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you're in the wrong section
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