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85MustGT

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I got the subframes installed and the car feels very solid especially arounds turns and over bumps. Feels more solid like (dare I say) my dad's vette.

How come Ford does not make the Mustang a uni-body?
Is the 05 Stang a uni-body?
A full frame makes sense to me.
 

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85MustGT said:
I got the subframes installed and the car feels very solid especially arounds turns and over bumps. Feels more solid like (dare I say) my dad's vette.

How come Ford does not make the Mustang a uni-body?
Is the 05 Stang a uni-body?
A full frame makes sense to me.
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Where did you have yours put in? I was thinking of just going to a local muffler shop but didn't know if they would do a decent job or if thats what most people use?
 

FallenPhoenix

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85MustGT said:
I got the subframes installed and the car feels very solid especially arounds turns and over bumps. Feels more solid like (dare I say) my dad's vette.

How come Ford does not make the Mustang a uni-body?
Is the 05 Stang a uni-body?
A full frame makes sense to me.
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the mustang is a unit body, it's like that because it's cheaper, weighs less, and it's cheaper

I'm also curious where to get subframes installed, I'm not trusting my baby with a muffler shop welding on her
 
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flipnsac

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WhiteDevil69 said:
Where did you have yours put in? I was thinking of just going to a local muffler shop but didn't know if they would do a decent job or if thats what most people use?
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I had mine welded in by a local muffler shop. They told me they get requests for this all the time from Mustangers. Just find a muffler shop that's been doing it and you'll be fine. It took about an hour to install. They had to remove the stock subframes (I have a vert) which were bolted on.
 

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When I got mine, I had them done at an alignment shop.

Any shop that can weld is fine, as long as they either

1. use a four post drive-on lift

2. do it from a pit under the car.

you want the car to be sitting flat on the wheels when they are installed or else your car may have a bow in the chassis when you put it on the ground. Although I do know shops that can install them on the standard suspension lift if they put the arms in the right place.

I actually noticed more of an improvement during acceleration and braking on the '96 when they were done. Not nearly as much nose-over on braking, and not as much ass-dragging on acceleration.

The 'vert made a huge difference all the way around, since the fox verts were notoriously under-stiffened.
 

ChadS98GT

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yeah this was one of the first modifications that I did to my car.....it made a huge improvement all around...definately a worthwhile modification
 

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banditmwp said:
I actually noticed more of an improvement during acceleration and braking on the '96 when they were done. Not nearly as much nose-over on braking, and not as much ass-dragging on acceleration.
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Did they improve your traction any? I am about to get some custom full-length subframes with seat supports welded on, but my tires are bald, so I was wondering if they would help with my traction. After the subframes it will probably be some new tires!
 

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I need sub-frames something feirce. With 4:10's, x-pipe, & exhaust the back speakers and the acessories shake like crazy.
 

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CManT1914 said:
Did they improve your traction any? I am about to get some custom full-length subframes with seat supports welded on, but my tires are bald, so I was wondering if they would help with my traction. After the subframes it will probably be some new tires!
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yeah, they helped a good bit...I noticed I can control the wheelspin more than I could before by feathering the throttle
 

FallenPhoenix

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how much for the install?
 

tomustang

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How come Ford does not make the Mustang a uni-body?
Is the 05 Stang a uni-body?
A full frame makes sense to me.[/QUOTE]

the mustang has been a uni-body since the first model, the 2005's are using the new thunderbird (they extended it) chassis.
 

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Subs

Along with subs it is a great mod to also add a shock tower brace. With both of these, you will be surprised how much better the car will feel. This is even more true with a 'vert.
 
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flipnsac

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FallenPhoenix said:
how much for the install?
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The hourly rate here for a welder is $75. That's what the muffler shop charged me, but everything seems to be higher here in California. It may be lower where you live. Just call a couple of places and you'll get a good idea of costs and you can ask if they've done 'em before too. It's really a straight forward install. If I had welding skills and tools, I would have done it myself but I decided to have a pro do it.
 

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flipnsac said:
The hourly rate here for a welder is $75. That's what the muffler shop charged me...
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Same here...$75 each for my two cars.
 
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flipnsac said:
The hourly rate here for a welder is $75. That's what the muffler shop charged me, but everything seems to be higher here in California. It may be lower where you live. Just call a couple of places and you'll get a good idea of costs and you can ask if they've done 'em before too. It's really a straight forward install. If I had welding skills and tools, I would have done it myself but I decided to have a pro do it.
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flipnsac,

where did you have yours done????
 
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flipnsac

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btolenti said:
flipnsac,

where did you have yours done????
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West Coast Muffler on Auburn Boulevard in Citrus Heights.

7932 Auburn Blvd.
(916) 728-4255

Ask for "Larry"
 

BadMoFo

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when I had my 00 gt I had my subs installed at a muffler shop, one of the best mods you can do next to gears. that and a strut tower brace, got rid of all those anoying squeeks a mustang has to.
 

FallenPhoenix

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as much as I want to get the Loudmouth, I really need to do subframes first before the frame starts to sag... I'm probably going to get Maximum Motorsports subs, what did you get installed 85mustgt?
 

ChadS98GT

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GOLDENPONY said:
Along with subs it is a great mod to also add a shock tower brace. With both of these, you will be surprised how much better the car will feel. This is even more true with a 'vert.
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Most people find these to be more of a pain than providing any value......you have to remove them to work on your engine at all....and they don't help all that much...

I say it's mostly cosmetic with a side effect of helping handling slightly....
 
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