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alekz

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Hunter-White said:
I owned a black 03 and noticed the swirls everytime. I used every wax and nothing would take out the swirls. Meguiars next gen was the best I found. I went to an auto collision school and played with all kinds of stuff and then a new product came out by 3m. "Perfect it 3000" You use a blue foam pad and a black foam pad. There are detailed directions but if you follow them you will have zero swirls. It's an amazing product that you can pick up at any paint or collision store. This will work..much much better than wetsanding.
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are these pads your talking about for an orbital polisher or for use by hand?? sounds interesting.
 
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there are better options than sanding

I've used Griot's Garage products and they are by far the best on the market. They have a random obital buffer and a series of 4 different polishes that will take care of any scrathecs, swirls and inprefections.

They are totally web based unless you live in western Washington state, where they have their one and only store & shop. They sell a complete wax, polish, pads, and the buffer for around $250. By the way clay baring won't do anything for the swirls. Clay bars only removed impurities in the pores of the paint for a deep cleaning which you do before polishing.

Just do a google search for their website
 

MustangDanny

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Take it to a pro dude. It isn't worth screwing up your car over.

Take a look at what I did to my Cobra to get defects out... it's not picnic! Takes a lot of professional chemicals and tools and most of all... know how.

My Detailing Write-Up
 

I candy

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wet sand? are you crazy? the dude don't isn't even sure if he's buffing right.

and as far as all swirls coming from buffers? I don't think so. I've seen some fine cars get swirl marks from plain washing and drying. its just a matter of what he thinks is bad.

i say spend the money on a detailer. then after that take care of it properly your self. ask around. go to a car show ask who detailed the cars you like.

better yet. ask a car dealer who they contract to detail cars if they dont' do it on the lot.
 

Matt's 03 GT

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Hunter-White said:
I owned a black 03 and noticed the swirls everytime. I used every wax and nothing would take out the swirls. Meguiars next gen was the best I found. I went to an auto collision school and played with all kinds of stuff and then a new product came out by 3m. "Perfect it 3000" You use a blue foam pad and a black foam pad. There are detailed directions but if you follow them you will have zero swirls. It's an amazing product that you can pick up at any paint or collision store. This will work..much much better than wetsanding.
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Wax will never remove swirls. It is not designed to do so. The product you are working with from 3M is a polish (as far as I know) and will remove some of the surface of the paint... and hence the light swirl marks.

Removing swirls is removing paint.

Some waxes have a lot of fillers and will make even a deeply swirled paint jobs look good for a small time. The only real fix is to polish the swirls away using a Random orbital porter cable and the correct products.
 

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MGD said:
ANYONE that would wetsand a two year old car for some swirls...
Wetsanding should be your VERY LAST RESORT bc of heavy heavy oxidation usually found on a 10+ year old car, not a two year old car.

Jim D. and Matt's 03 GT are right, get a real polisher like a portercable and some stuff made to remove swirls and learn the technique, or find a good detailer and watch him work. Swirls happen, no matter how careful you are, but you can really minimize them with a good wash/dry technique in the future.

If you want tech opinions, go to stangnet. If you want clean/polish techniques, check out a detailing forum, they are out there. Too much misinformation in this thread
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I find this to be the case of SN. So much mis info. Appears when 1 person does something or is told something from another person, this becomes his/her opinion and its locked in like gold.......till they actually put it to the test, then its not fun anymore. I agree with above comments. Locate a new forum for a specific item you desire to put closure to, only when joining, attempt the "search" feature first if applicatible. Works good for those not in a big city
 

SVT32VDOHC

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I have used 3M swirl and scratch remover. 9.99 for 1 pint at Murrays. It is formulated for DARK colored cars only!! It works great!!

I have also used Wizards Shine Master...WOW This is great too. 19.99 for 1 quart
 
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