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mr_tinkertrain

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alright first of all i am a newbie. i have all new infinity kappas all around and a kenwood headunit completely bypassed factory amp. now it does sound much better than stock but i know its not full potential. I dont wanna add subs yet but i desire more powerful bass and even highs. any ideas for really substatially improving sound is appreciated. would new wire improve the sound greatly? i was thinking a 4 channel amp with 75 rms going to door speakers and rear hatch speakers so they wouldnt be underpowered anymore. btw why do my speakers distort when turned up all the way because they arent getting their full power rating. when i put in the rear speakers i had to cut the metal plate and i think the speakers are touching the plate so would putting some kind of deadener between the speakers and metal improve sound? sound from the rear speakers is really bad at high volumes, the door speakers sound much better. could i improve the hatch speakers with anything? btw i know the polarity is correct on my whole system. i know this was a big runon of stuff but if anybody can give me ANY ideas for some cheap improvements PLEASE TELL!!!! cheap=around $300 or lower
 

dave96stang

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First of all, if you're running your speakers off of your headunit, the speakers are definitely not running near their full potential. If you're looking for more bass and even highs, first and easiest thing to do would be to use an amp. Find one that matches the RMS rating of your speakers and that should do good. Also, it wouldn't hurt to deaden your back speakers(maybe even your front speakers too for that matter) to get better bass response.
 

HardmanGT

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First thing to do is verify and correct the polarity. The distortion is most likely the result of feeding low frequencies to a speaker that cannot reproduce them. I would add a sub to get the desired bass. To make those Kappa's last longer, either adjust the crossover so that they don't get the deeper bass, or add Bass Blockers to filter them out. The sub will more than make up for their bass output and you will get much better sound quality.
 
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Nottoofast50

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go to thezeb.com and buy some cdt component speakers 6.5" for the door with tweets for the highs and mids.... then buy an amp to power those if u want i have for sale on ebay for $30 that does 100 watts x 2 max and 50 watts x 2 rms... it looks like crap but works well.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&category=39734&sspagename=STRK:MESSE:IT&rd=1
 
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Snow Pony

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I have kappas all around in mine '93 GTwith a sony head unit, sub and and amp. Like mentioned before you should get a amp (4 channel amp total 600watts or more) the kappas can handle that easy. Also a self powered sub. You can get both for cheap off ebay. I got my 650watt amp for $155 and my self powered Infinity 200 watt sub for $175. I know that's over $300, but not much and it's worth it. Trust me.
Yes the reason you get distortion when turned up is because you don't have enough juice going through, hence the need for the amp. When you hook up the amp, make sure replace the stock speaker wires. I replaced mine with 12 guage. If you don't replace it, you wasted your money getting kappas, plus it could burn up the wire(so i heard). Kinda like getting a intake, cam and exhaust without ever getting new heads or having them ported, it would be a waste of time really. Also when connecting the amp to the head unit, use RCA's and don't run the RCA's along with the power wire. Run the power wires on the drivers side and Rca's on the left or you'll get the whining noise in your speakers when you accelerate. Hopes this helped and didn't confuse you. I had to cut the metal plates to fit my rear kappas also, that was a biznitch, and that's where i grounded the sub and amp, one for both sides and it works like a charm. I'll post a pic of the end result in a min.
 

BBrinks

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I also recommend getting an amp. A nice 4-channel amp: http://www.millionbuy.com/souega4160.html will do fine. If you want better bass response out of the speakers, putting some deadener behind the speaker will help get rid of some of the vibrations, but completely sealing your door will help the most with getting better midbass response.
 
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