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Boosted92LX

It's only an inch or two. What's the big deal?
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I guy I work with has a 900 hp 02 camaro, and he just wiped out the input cluster on his t56 magnum. His transmission guy is going to repair it, and my coworker is upgrading transmissions. I'm considering buying it to put in my 93 fox, but I'm not sure about the shifter location. I'm going to buy an sfi bellhousing and a new clutch for it, but do I need to relocate the shifter to hit the hole in my lx, and if so, what hardware will I need????

Thanks for any help!!!!
 

stykthyn

I want to measure mine. It doesn't look that tall.
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the shifter on the f-body trans is several as in 6 or 7 inches too far back. you will have to fab a shifter for it.
 

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It's only an inch or two. What's the big deal?
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^^^Correct me if I'm wrong, but these transmissions, just like the tko's have different plates on top of the trans that are removed to relocate the shifter...right??? I know it's further back on the camaros, but like in the 03 cobras, isn't the shifter located in a different spot? What's it take to relocate it????
 
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SSeater, the shifter position is not a problem. The most 'rearward' position on a Magnum is actually a bit too far forward for F-bodies, but nearly perfect for Fox & SN cars. If you ask your buddy, I'm sure he'll tell you that he either used some sort of offset shifter or had to trim the opening in the floor to accomodate.

You are however, going to have a problem getting the trans into your car unless you're using LS power. The LS Magnums use a different 'mid-plate' on the front of the trans, which doesn't offer provisions for your factory cable clutch release. Additionally, the LS input shaft is longer with a smaller diameter pilot.

You could likely swap the mid-plate and input to make it work, however beware the trans that has been subjected to such abuse! Losing a cluster is about as bad as it gets in the world of transmission failures. Personally I'd have a hard time believing that a layshaft could go without doing a great deal of secondary damage--or maybe the cluster was the secondary damage? I could get really long winded with this, but to sum it up, just imagine all the carnage that takes place once pieces of hardened gears start flying around inside a gearbox--yikes!

Anyways, I hope that helps SSeater. For what it's worth I put a Magnum in my '94 GT with help from D&D and absolutely love it. No serious drag use yet, but on the street it's by far the best trans I've ever rowed gears with. Good luck!
 

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It's only an inch or two. What's the big deal?
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speedfreak94 said:
SSeater, the shifter position is not a problem. The most 'rearward' position on a Magnum is actually a bit too far forward for F-bodies, but nearly perfect for Fox & SN cars. If you ask your buddy, I'm sure he'll tell you that he either used some sort of offset shifter or had to trim the opening in the floor to accomodate.

You are however, going to have a problem getting the trans into your car unless you're using LS power. The LS Magnums use a different 'mid-plate' on the front of the trans, which doesn't offer provisions for your factory cable clutch release. Additionally, the LS input shaft is longer with a smaller diameter pilot.

You could likely swap the mid-plate and input to make it work, however beware the trans that has been subjected to such abuse! Losing a cluster is about as bad as it gets in the world of transmission failures. Personally I'd have a hard time believing that a layshaft could go without doing a great deal of secondary damage--or maybe the cluster was the secondary damage? I could get really long winded with this, but to sum it up, just imagine all the carnage that takes place once pieces of hardened gears start flying around inside a gearbox--yikes!

Anyways, I hope that helps SSeater. For what it's worth I put a Magnum in my '94 GT with help from D&D and absolutely love it. No serious drag use yet, but on the street it's by far the best trans I've ever rowed gears with. Good luck!
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Thank you very much for your input! I was just about to give up on this one anyway before I read your opinion. I had just figured out the midplate dilema, and then there's the speedo function issue (that's another couple hundred dollars). Then, like you said, possible additional damage, input lenght, pilot size, By the time it's said and done with it's not practical, I think it'll be better to start off with a new ford unit from tremec.

Oh well, better than learning the hard way!

Thanks again!
 
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