Teen Project Car

NJohc

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Hey guys,
Im going to be able to get my permit soon so I've been wanting to get a car to learn and work on for when I'm able to drive it. I come from a family of car enthusiasts but it will still take some convincing to get a car this early even though it is with my own money. I either want a 92-98 bmw 3 series coupe or a fox body mustang. My dad used to have one and now he has a mach 1. His boss has all bmw's, specifically a 2006 m3 that started my love for BMW's.

Anyway, Ive been looking on craigslist and found a 92' 5.0 for 600 dollars with a burnt interior due to an electrical fire. The claimed good is that it has a good engine, trans, and rear along with a brand new exhaust and no dents or body damage. The bad: 162,000 miles and fire damage to the interior and bad wiring.

I just sent an email out for pics but my question is. How far can these things go as far as that type of mileage? If this car is a 5spd and runs good when we go to look at it Im hoping we can bring it home for me to learn on. But that amount of miles is the only thing holding me back.
Thanks for any help
 
Welcome to Stangnet... :spot:

Not all of us know how to fix everything, but some of us know how to fix some things with excellence!

Unless you are really sharp in the electrical department, avoid a car with a burnt interior like the plague. By sharp, I'm talking the equivalent of an ASE Electrical certificate or two years of automotive electrical experience. You will have more electrical problems with burnt wiring and components than you can imagine.

If you want to do the fix up & power up thing, make sure that you have some other form of reliable daily driver. That way the stang can sit while your wallet and hands take a rest from the last project that didn't quite get finished on that 3 day weekend. Things always cost more and take longer the first time you do them. Having some other working vehicle makes life easier since it isn't the big crush to get it running for the Monday morning drive to work or class.

Plan on spending some money on tools it you don't already have them. The stang has both metric and American fasteners, so you really need two sets of wrenches. A timing light, digital voltmeter, vacuum gauge, compression tester, fuel pressure test gauge and fuel line coupler tools are some of the test & tuning tools you'll need. Visit the pawn shops and sometimes you can find a deal on tools & test equipment if you stick to well known name brands.

A sheltered work area is almost a must, someplace that you can leave the car in pieces without upsetting anyone. Some guys here have changed a transmission in the parking lot of their apartment in a rainstorm, but they will tell you it wasn't fun. Depending on where you live, a warm dry garage is a nice place to do the winter projects that stangs tend to become.

EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection) Computer - every stang after 85 has or had one: don't let it intimidate you. The computer based EFI systems are not hard to fix and most of the time they tell you what's wrong with the engine. Here's a book that will get you started with how the Ford electronic engine control or "computer" works.

Ford Fuel Injection & Electronic Engine Control 1988-1993 by James Probst:
ISBN 0-8376-0301-3.

It's about $25-$35 from Borders.com see http://www.amazon.com/ . Select boo...d.php?t=643651"]Useful Technical Thread Index” sticky at the top of the 5.0 Tech forum.

Things that break often:
T5 5 speed manual transmission (syncros go bad, mostly 3rd gear after 140K-170K miles).
TFI Module (Thin Film Ignition module - mounts on the distributor)
Electric door locks (see the link in my sign for a cheap & easy fix)
Ignition switches – they overheat and cause flaky wiper, radio, heater blower & turn signal problems.
O2 sensors(oxygen sensors) - They are good for about 60,000 miles and start to go down hill after that. At $37-$45 each, it isn't a cheap fix.
TPS Sensor - (Throttle Position Sensor) causes flaky problems with idle & acceleration.
Fog lights - They overheat the wiring and cause the headlights to flicker. The fix is cheap and simple if you can do electrical stuff.
Harmonic Balancer – they separate between the hub and outer ring. A harmonic balancer puller is a must have to change it. You can rent or borrow a puller from most of the larger auto parts stores.

Things that are very durable:
Engine - as long as it hasn't been abused, it will run good for 150,000-200,000 miles without an overhaul
Rear axle other than an occasional case of worn clutches in the traction lock, they almost never have problems.
Computer - believe it or not, the computers seldom have problems of their own. Most of the problems are with the sensors and the wiring.
Suspension – the front and rear suspension has very few problems if the car hasn’t been wrecked or seen a lot of drag strip runs. The drag strip runs tend to distort and tear the mount points for the rear axle control arms. Revving the engine up to 4000 RPM and dumping the clutch with slicks or drag radials tends to break things.

Things that don’t break often but are hard to fix:
Water pump mount bolts – they corrode and shear off when you try to change the water pump.
Rear oil seal on the engine – lots of parts to remove to get to a $20 seal.
Power steering pump – the pumps are noisy and the pulley requires some special tools to remove and install. If you have the tools, they are easy to do. Again, the larger auto parts stores will rent or loan the tools for the pulley.
Power Steering rack - it is hard to get the toe in set so that you can drive the car to the shop to get it properly aligned.
Starter – the top bolt is hard to get a socket on if you don’t have the right combination of socket, universal joint and extensions.

Everything considered, 5.0 Mustangs are not hard to work on. They just require some patience and though before you get started.
 
Thank you very much! That's a lot of the things I've been trying to google in 1 post. I appreciate it. I know we have most of, if not all of those tool the garage, but I plan on getting my own once I get the money.

As for electrical work, I have no experience with that, but I know my dad is pretty good with it after all his work with cars. I've helped replace the tps on my mom's explorer so I have done that before. I've learned slowly thanks to my dad, but he's not around at the moment to ask. Plus, I need to work on even getting this car a spot in our driveway with him before I start talking electrical!

I have a little over a year until I can actually drive it on my own, since Im only just getting my permit soon. Hopefully that's enough time to get it fixed up and ready.

Thanks again
 
Buy car for 600 or less, buy 4 banger coupe for cheap and transfer the driveline over.

You might be better off starring with a running car though. Might be too much to chew for now. These cars will nickel and dime you.
 
Find a decent running car, will be your best bet. Start with small projects and work your way up. After a few years of tinkering it becomes easier, some fixes will always be a PITA no matter how many times you do them though LOL