The "CAI" is NOT a "performance" modification.

bryanrevans · May 3, 2005

I dont give a dukey I like how it looks!!!!!

DMAN302 · May 3, 2005

Ah see this is why I decided to post this topic..I would LOVE to find a product that works over my stock system..but would have to be proven. I will take a look at the AMF, but I'm still cynical. Since going from a 65mm to a 70mm TB yeilded no gain in terms of performance for my vehicle I can stand by my statement that the stock inlet provides more than adequate air "volume" for a 302 N/A set up.

bluevenom867 · May 3, 2005

"Gain Up To 20hp From One Of Are Cold Air Induction Kits!!!"*

*A 20hp gain was reliezed on a 5.0 mustang with a sandwitch bag over the stock +100,000mile airfilter, compared to ours w/ K&N filter

UnderPressureGT · May 3, 2005

willys1 said:
Power pipes? The shorter ones that go into the first hole in the fender? Who sells those?//And where?

www.andersonfordmotorsport.com

willys1 · May 3, 2005

UnderPressureGT said:
who says signatures only have PERFORMANCE mods??

bluevenom867 · May 3, 2005

They do work,they may drop the temps down maybe 10 to 20 degrees depnding on the material and size of the tubing,which is a solid 5-6hp.

mustangramair · May 3, 2005

I agree that a CAI isn't a great performance mod, but i also don't see anything wrong with putting it in your signature. There isn't anything wrong with being proud of something you put on your car even if it just makes your engine look nicer. I guess everyone has to start somewhere.

04sleeper · May 3, 2005

willys1 said:
Power pipes? The shorter ones that go into the first hole in the fender? Who sells those?//And where?

Yes. Like this.
View attachment 515626

I have one if you are interested willy. PM me or let me know.

Or you can go to http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.com/pipes/pipes-50.html

DMAN302 · May 3, 2005

I would enjoy testing this "snail" intake your speaking of...does anyone have one of these laying around..I would love to try one. Thanks JT for the support, I just love stirring it up now and then. Fact is the "standard" CAI like the BBK/MAC/UPR is nothing more than a company ass grab to take advantage of the unknowing..I think the false claims stink..just not right. Perhaps as stated the AFM inlet works, but I just don't see any "true" gains to justify the price.

DMAN302 · May 3, 2005

I for one think they look FANTASTIC..if not for worry about problems it MAY create with my cars performance, I would in no way be opposed to having one in place. Hell your talkin to the guy who purchased the billet hand brake cover..lol.

88_GT_5_oh · May 3, 2005

so what about a wing.. that still adds HP right? or was i lied to again? damn ricer friends

willys1 · May 3, 2005

vristang said:
Blah, Blah, Blah.

Post the dyno sheets please.

I personally can't imagine 20hp from a CAI. But, I can also see how an increase could be realized. Maybe more from smoother airflow, than the cold air affect. I will wait to see dyno sheets to make my decision. Also please post what other mods had been made to the vehicle, and any important dyno specifics like ambient/underhood temp of each test.

I will still hesitate to think that 20hp can come from this mod, but keep in mind that just like any test the results can be skewed if the test is not conducted properly.

Also, how is it that a CAI can cause erradic MAF readings as described? I have not heard of this before and am curious as to how the CAI affects the MAF.

Yeah,,I just happened to have some of his dyno sheets lying around, ,,Im not the one in disbelief,you wanna see,go to his web site and SEE I said "12",not 20!! Plus some of that 12hp is from the larger maf!! I cant see 20 either!! Although I see some big gains with the svt Cobra'!!

04sleeper · May 3, 2005

Here is your Dyno Graph for all you non-belivers.

Or just ask Rick 91GT .

bluevenom867 · May 3, 2005

88_GT_5_oh said:
so what about a wing.. that still adds HP right? or was i lied to again? damn ricer friends

Of course it adds hp silly

Its placed on the back so its superior to thous "front" engine modes because you get instant rwhp,skiping the normal front hp gain and giving you only rwhp.

mackey · May 3, 2005

A K&N Cold Air Intake is worth a few psi on 03-04 cobras and they net big gains... I say they are a modification. Especially for the price we pay, they better be considered a modification.

willys1 · May 3, 2005

89sleeper said:
Yes. Like this.
View attachment 515625

I have one if you are interested willy. PM me or let me know.

Or you can go to http://www.andersonfordmotorsport.com/pipes/pipes-50.html

My pm box is full and Im going to bed..YEAH,,I want it!! How much?

88_GT_5_oh · May 3, 2005

bluevenom867 said:
Of course it adds hp silly

Its placed on the back so its superior to thous "front" engine modes because you get instant rwhp,skiping the normal front hp gain and giving you only rwhp.

whew... glad the previous owner did the "wing swap" for me

willys1 · May 3, 2005

89sleeper said:
Here is your Dyno Graph for all you non-belivers.

Or just ask Rick 91GT .

vristang · May 3, 2005

willys1 said:
Yeah,,I just happened to have some of his dyno sheets lying around, ,,Im not the one in disbelief,you wanna see,go to his web site and SEE I said "12",not 20!! Plus some of that 12hp is from the larger maf!! I cant see 20 either!! Although I see some big gains with the svt Cobra'!!

None of my comments were meant for any one person.

I pose the challenge to everyone (both believers and naysayers), to post dyno sheets. Otherwise old wives tales will continue to prosper, turning us all into dumb ricers

oohsoobad2 · May 3, 2005

I agree that a cold air is mostly just a show piece. However there is nothing wrong with listing it as a performance mod, Id bet even the worst cold air kit is worth one or two HP over stock just because of the free flowing filter.
I personally skipped the cold air and added a replacement K&N filter, I dont list it as one of my mods, but it did drop .10 and added 1.5 MPH in the quarter mile.

The "CAI" is NOT a "performance" modification.

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