The more timing the better?

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For years, sbf's have produced the most power with
a total advance of 36 degrees + or - a bit

While that is proven for WOT :nice:

What about cruising around town :shrug:

Optimum values can go as high as mid 40's :eek:

This goes to show why you will never find that ..........
"Perfect Dizzy Setting" you seek

How does Ford obtain the best of both worlds simultaneously :shrug:
Spark Table in the pcm ;)

It uses Load and RPM to determine best spark for cruise and wot :nice:

Lets use WOT for an example :D
It uses basically the value of 10 at the dizzy
and
It adds 16 more for a total of 26 at max load and max rpm

Why do we get more power when we dizzy twist :shrug:
Remember the little statement about 36 degrees ;)

Here is where the rub comes in with dizzy twisting :bang:

We spark it up for max power :banana:
and
it works :nice:

We then quickly see the ping thing :notnice:
because the dizzy twist thing
has thrown off the optimum range for cruise :fuss:

As with a lot the things :D
It depends :shrug:
or
One good thing can hose up another :(

Its all about ......... Compromise
and
Knowledge gives one the ability to Compromise the least :nice:

Hope I splained it good enough to make sense :shrug:
if not
ask more and maybe others can ............ :rlaugh: clean up my mess

Grady
 
Couldn't have said it better than the guru. :nice:

For instance, I get pinging in high gear, low RPM, low load (a time when Grady noted TT to be over 40*). I do alright otherwise. So I simply had to 'tune' (as well as a caveman can) for the worst case scenario regaring pinging (I could use more at WOT but don't as a compromise).

In my mind, as Grady has pointed out so many times, it comes down what what us old guys think of as a crappy timing curve (thinking about TT for all conditions with this load-based processor). You could say that our timing curves are not optimal (they're ok up top sometimes, but suck in the midrange).


Wait a minute Mr Nacho. Dont you run a fox processor? If so, forget some of that load-based stuff. For the most part, you can time it for WOT ping (that be how I do it on the fox, at least).

Good luck bud.
 
For years, sbf's have produced the most power with
a total advance of 36 degrees + or - a bit

While that is proven for WOT :nice:

What about cruising around town :shrug:

Optimum values can go as high as mid 40's :eek:

This goes to show why you will never find that ..........
"Perfect Dizzy Setting" you seek

How does Ford obtain the best of both worlds simultaneously :shrug:
Spark Table in the pcm ;)

It uses Load and RPM to determine best spark for cruise and wot :nice:

Lets use WOT for an example :D
It uses basically the value of 10 at the dizzy
and
It adds 16 more for a total of 26 at max load and max rpm

Why do we get more power when we dizzy twist :shrug:
Remember the little statement about 36 degrees ;)

Here is where the rub comes in with dizzy twisting :bang:

We spark it up for max power :banana:
and
it works :nice:

We then quickly see the ping thing :notnice:
because the dizzy twist thing
has thrown off the optimum range for cruise :fuss:

As with a lot the things :D
It depends :shrug:
or
One good thing can hose up another :(

Its all about ......... Compromise
and
Knowledge gives one the ability to Compromise the least :nice:

Hope I splained it good enough to make sense :shrug:
if not
ask more and maybe others can ............ :rlaugh: clean up my mess

Grady


Grady,

I dont know if anybody has told you this..........
But I LOVE reading your post because of the knowledge and class..........
but also cause I get a kick out of how you use the smillys
 
Grady,

I dont know if anybody has told you this..........
But I LOVE reading your post because of the knowledge and class..........
but also cause I get a kick out of how you use the smillys

Thank You Sir :D

Your Kind to say those things :hail2:
The Smilies are just sitting there to the right ... begging to be used :D

As for the knowledge :shrug:

If you pick up a bit every day .........
It can be accumulated over time I reckon :)
then again ....
When you get old as me :(
you start to find out you can't recall none of it :rlaugh:

The info on how the pcm manipulates spark and fuel

Peeps come to me with an attitude of like ....
Its some kind of Black Magic :eek:

It's Not :nono:

The basic operation can be learned fairly easily :nice:

The more challenging stuff can be learned a bit at a time ....
You know! ... Like the old story of ... How do you eat an Elephant?
One Bite At A Time ;)

Hey ... I encourage em to try and learn just the basics :D
I put basic simple stuff up on a site
I put simple stuff up here

I don't know :shrug:

If they think its all a bunch of Dark Secrets
or
Some kind of Monumental task to learn it

I guess they are a bit in the "Dark" ... when they think ............
I've done something they consider to be Smart

If you think about it ;)

Its really no different than learning how to :nono:
put parts together that will give your Stang more "get up and go" :banana:

Grady