The Official kiddiccarus 2007 NFL Thread

97stang_guy said:

The hold was a bad call...The refs gave them the game.

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when a defender grabs a recievers jersey it's called Defensive Holding...was it marginal?? perhaps but it was a hold

Hopefully the Ravens wore them down for the Steelers next week

97stang_guy said:

Hopefully the Raven wore them down for the Steelers next week

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Thats gonna be a serious matchup for sure....i hope it's as exiting as tonights game was...then again i hope Brady hooks up with Welker alot to help my fantasy team lol

04DarkShadowGT said:

Unless you are playing or coaching nothing you do affects the game

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Very true.. but sometimes moving to a different spot works

97stang_guy said:

The hold was a bad call...The refs gave them the game.

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I have to see it again.. I have it on my DVR and I checked once already and I saw a slight pull on the jersey..

DoubleONegative said:

when a defender grabs a recievers jersey it's called Defensive Holding...was it marginal?? perhaps but it was a hold

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I agree it was really marginal, but if you hold all night don't be surprised when it gets called on a marginal play. It's burned the pats before this time it burned the ravens.


Well they won a game they should have lost .

The dumbass coach cost them the game with the stupid TO on 4th and 1 when they stuffed him. Why take a TO? Give the offense more time to figure out a way to make it? Morons

97stang_guy said:

The dumbass coach cost them the game with the stupid TO on 4th and 1 when they stuffed him. Why take a TO? Give the offense more time to figure out a way to make it? Morons

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Your right that cost the ravens the game... I would not be mad about this if I was you.. If I was a steeler fan I rather face a complacent 12-0 pats then a pissed off 11-1 pats

BTW I just watched the holding call again on ESPN with a view from behind.. It was a clear hold.. The hold was not in the end zone it was all the way up untill the end zone he held from the line of scrimage all the way to the 2-3 yard line... That is HUGE that will destroy the timing of a pass play.

You can't wrap around a guys waist and hold a shirt like that..

Clear hold. The reason it was a hold and not PI is the penalty happend during the route not when the catch attempt was made.

svttech76 said:

Very true.. but sometimes moving to a different spot works


I have to see it again.. I have it on my DVR and I checked once already and I saw a slight pull on the jersey..


I agree it was really marginal, but if you hold all night don't be surprised when it gets called on a marginal play. It's burned the pats before this time it burned the ravens.


Well they won a game they should have lost .

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At least you admitted it.. I still think that touchdown catch was not reviewed properly... they were focused on the feet but what about the fact he didnt have control of the football? It definatly wasn't a catch.

svttech76 said:

Well they won a game they should have lost .

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IMO, it doesn't matter if they should have lost or not. If it was the Superbowl, they still would have been crowned Champs. A win is a win, no matter how it happened

Kraw said:

IMO, it doesn't matter if they should have lost or not. If it was the Superbowl, they still would have been crowned Champs. A win is a win, no matter how it happened

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+1

It was a good game, but just like Indy and Philly the Ravens didnt close it out. They had multiple chances for the offense to sustain a drive in the 4th quarter and they got 3 and out or an INT. They had chances to stop the Pats but couldnt, now there were some circumastances affecting that but still.

They had the game and if you have the champ down you have to keep punching and not let him up.

Baltimore played for them a nearly perfect game except 1 INT and still lost at home.

Couple things.

By rule, an asst coach cannot call a time out. Ryan should know this. The refs usually grant it by common sense. Like a hold on the o line. It happens every play but sometimes human refs call it sometimes they don't.

It was a hold on defense , by rule. But just like the above statement, sometimes its called sometimes not. Sometimes its called at a bad time for one team.

The final TD catch was NOT a catch. pats fans can argue this all day. Proofs in the pudding. But it was called a TD and thats all that counts. Although I really believe if that was Baltimore who caught it, no TD. Not out of favortism but its the luck the Pats have had this year.

New England doesn't look bullitproof.I mean the Eagles are marginal at best and Baltimore is not good. I saw that NE does not have that great of a D. It looks better because the offense scores so much that teams are forced to throw right away and any half assed coach knows this and how to defend it. Get them against the ropes and a good team can close them out. Phili and Baltimore are not good teams.
Also if you pressure Brady and get him on the ground a couple times, he becomes unwrapped and you can get to him. Baltimore had this and Rex Ryan decided to go with a 3 person rush at the end. Give Brady time, he'll pick you apart. Get to him and you have a chance.

No1 offense vs. No 1 Defense. This is gonna kick ass if both teams play like they can. Pittsburgh lost to the Jets and the Miami game just forget about it. I personally was on the field later that night and it was like playing in a wet cow pasture. So both teams are not playing as well as they can although Pittsburgh has not had their starting saftey and deep threat reciever the past three weeks. Sunday should be great!

The Ravens HAD THAT GAME. I mean they had it by the balls, and then 3 **** ups in a row and they kissed it goodbye.

Ah well. God I hope Polamalu is back in this weekend, but probably won't. 4 starters were out on Sunday and that's no good, but the defense still looked pretty good out there.

Also I think whoever plays the Ravens next will be dealing with a pissed off team.