CHEATERS
The problem with the Patriots is they got caught last year at Green Bay doing the same thing, the commissioner personally warned the patriots and the rest of the NFL. Yet they get caught doing the same thing again after being told specifically not to do so and rules where written against this exact deal.
And no not every team in the NFL does this. Belichick is a good coach but deserves whatever he gets, be that draft picks, fines, suspension, or all the above.
The fact that you claim all other teams do it is irrelevant, the Pats got caught red handed. Just because alot of people drink and drive does that mean we should let the ones we catch go because they arent the only ones? There has to be some integrity somewhere and the Pats are a great team, and are good enough they shouldnt need to cheat to get an advantage and if it wasnt a big deal and not much of an advantage they wouldnt do it after being caught before and warned to stop.
But if someone says their sucess was due to cheating they are dumb, the pats are a great team with a great QB, and a great coach.
As far as Mangini ratting them out, as much of a dick head as Belichick has been to Mangini after he left I say good for him. I mean seriously whats the deal with Belichick and hating Mangini because he left for a better job. Its certainly not like Belichick has every done that.
Quite frankly, i do not agree with redline or svt..
If some other team was caught cheating (ie: raiders of last season) your better damn well realize, YES a BIG DEAL would have been made had they been caught.
On another note, all your claims of other teams cheating, you have NO proof of? sure MAYBE some other teams HAVE cheated. No proof they ALL have, nor done it on a regular basis..
Your claims of "he's right there in plain view" i dismiss. Doesn't matter to me how visable they are to the other team. Binoculars or not, they violated NFL policies and Cheated. Plain and simple. Maybe the two of you should stop being so PRO PATS and "admit that the patriots cheated" instead of telling others to "admit other teams have done it"
It doesn't matter anymore. they cheated, teh end.
/end argument again, continue good football chat
Where have I said or SVT said that they should be slapped on the hand and let go for what they did? I said I did not condone what they had done, nor am I proud of it. The only point we are trying to make is its only a big deal when a team is caught, b/c in fact its more common then any of us realize.
WOW some people will NEVER get it no matter how many times you explain it. I had a easier time house training my dog than with this
IT IS NOT ILLEGAL OR AGAINST THE RULES TO TRY AND "STEAL" THE OTHER TEAMS SIGNALS OR PLAYS........... WHAT IS ILLEGAL OR AGAINST THE NFL RULES IS HOW THEY WENT ABOUT DOING THAT..
THEY RULE THEY ARE BEING ACCUSED OF BREAKING BY THE NFL IS ILLEGALLY VIDEOTAPING THE SIGNALS.. THEY ARE NOT BEING CHARGED WITH A RULE OF "CHEATING"
FOR THE LAST TIME. IT'S IS 100 PERCENT TOTALLY LEGAL AND PART OF THE GAME TO TRY AND INTERCEPT AND DECIPHER THE OTHER TEAMS SIGNALS..
ALL TEAMS DO THIS!!!!!
WHAT THE PATS DID WRONG IS THEY VIDEOTAPED THE SIGNALS FROM THE FEILD... THAT IS ILLEGAL AND THEY SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR DOING SO...
AGAIN FOR THE LAST TIME..
IT IS NOT CHEATING OR ILLEGAL IN THE NFL TO TRY TO STEAL THE OTHER TEAMS SIGNS... IT IS PART OF THE GAME.
insert long ramble here
i agree im sure it is common.. when you get caught though someone should own up to it, like you said
actually you dont have to train me, I know that its legal to try and steal other teams signals and how the pats went about it was the wrong way. Honestly thats not want I nor most of us have been saying, this is common knowledge. Still lables them as cheaters since they are "one upping" everyone else and getting that extra edge other teams do not have, thus making them.. CheatersI get your reasoning, i got it like the 4 times you posted it I think you are misunderstanding where the majority of us are coming from and only reading what you want to maybe
wow this guy is all butt hurt over this lol he keeps tryin to talk hisself into believeing what he is sayin but the fact is they CHEATED. u say they broke the rules or bent the rules thats CHEATING.
they cheated.
go seachickens!!!
Still stikes me as odd... I mean they know the NFL policy, why try and do something like that so obviously????? I don't get it. Maybe they didn't realize videotaping from the sidelines was against the rules i don't know
Polamalu should not have to cut his hair. It doesn't give him an unfair advantage at all. It is part of his culture. That is so stupid and closed minded for you to say something like that. I thought more of you.
Then Brady Quinn would have to be cut for being gay. No homos on my team either.
talk about someone lettin there personal feelings come over into the moderator abilits thts just wrong man tht is what this thread is for trasj talk and discussion if it deals with the nfl this is where we talk about it. like i was once told in this very thread if u cant handle it either get a tissue or get out cause noone cares for ur feelings. on tht note have a nice day
BTW I really do not care for the tone of your post. I see you spread thinly supported accusations lightly.
Openly challenging a moderator over a moderating decision is against the TOS but since I have skated the edge of the TOS in this thread I will let it go.
BAN THE PATRIOTS HATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Picks up pitch fork and gathers lynching mob*
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