Thinking of getting a Vortech

WhiteStallionGT · Apr 18, 2005

It will be probably a couple years from now, but I'd like to do some planning.

My engine plans:
Cobra upper/lower intake
TB (what size?)

That's all that I can think of at the top of my mind, I don't want to have a superfast car that will end up being 8 miles per galon cause this is my daily driver.

Any other suggestions for engine mods so I can aquire some good power from the Vortech?

Venom351R · Apr 18, 2005

Get a 70 MM TB.

1105 · Apr 18, 2005

75mm TB at least

Venom351R · Apr 18, 2005

70MM

S/CBlack95GT · Apr 18, 2005

A 65mm TB will be just fine with the blower and your mild combo. Going to something larger will be totally worthless, and dyno tests prove it. The biggest help will be adding a PowerPipe with an 80mm MAF. That will help add around 20-30rwhp.

You can have a superfast car and still get good MPG. My car is pretty darn fast and I get 23mpg highway and 15-18mpg city.

DFG 5OH · Apr 18, 2005

i'd look into other blowers, theres more stuff out there other than Vortec

Kenn Bell
Paxton
TURBO'S

WhiteDevil · Apr 18, 2005

S/CBlack95GT said:
A 65mm TB will be just fine with the blower and your mild combo. Going to something larger will be totally worthless, and dyno tests prove it. .

Why not just stay stock 5mm cant make thatmuch of a difference right i mean 70mm would be a waste then why isnt 65mm a waste.

S/CBlack95GT · Apr 18, 2005

WhiteDevil said:
Why not just stay stock 5mm cant make thatmuch of a difference right i mean 70mm would be a waste then why isnt 65mm a waste.

Yeah it sounds weird, but it seems once you get over 65mm you just dont gain much at all. The stock TB is actually a really restrictive 60mm. Going from a 60-65 doesnt seem like much but you do gain a decent amount. There seems to be a happy midpoint when it comes to TB sizes. Now if you are making 600+rwhp then yeah, you may want to try a 70mm, but when making around 350rwhp there isnt much gain from what I have seen.

N/A is a totally different story though when it comes to TB sizes.

Venom351R · Apr 19, 2005

S/CBlack95GT said:
Going to something larger will be totally worthless,

Not unless you have an Intake w/ an opening of 70MM and you match it up w/ a 70MM TB. Kind of point less to have a 65MM TB matched up to a 70MM Intake opening.

WhiteStallionGT · Apr 19, 2005

Thanks for the help. From the Vortech website it says if you put one of these on a stock car it would increase the 215hp to 319. Is that right? So in my case, I would be looking for about 330?

8 psi is just about right for me right?

94GTLaserRC · Apr 19, 2005

I went from 203 RWHP with pullies/exhaust to over 350 RWHP with the blower (took away the pullies), PROm-77, Intake 70mm TB, etc. If you do it, Go ahead and get whatever TB matches the intake opening.

ONe Caviat: there are a bunch of us down here (me excluded so far, but that may change) that put in Vortech's in Daily Drivers...NOT that you cant do that, but there are always issues which require downtime (even if it is easy) and it gets frustrating not having another car to drive while youre working on it. Im looking for a hoopty right now, because I sent my VOrtech back for "reconditioning service".

I got a car to borrow for now, and I must say, IM taking stuff apart to clean, tune, polish, upgrade, etc. It is nice.

Bottom line is that it is hard to have a Vortech as an ONLY driver because of time needed to work on the car.

GOOD LUCK THOUGH!"
RC

WhiteStallionGT · Apr 19, 2005

Thanks a lot RC. I'll look into that 331 you talked to me about.

igotyofire · Apr 20, 2005

94GTLaserRC said:
I went from 203 RWHP with pullies/exhaust to over 350 RWHP with the blower (took away the pullies), PROm-77, Intake 70mm TB, etc. If you do it, Go ahead and get whatever TB matches the intake opening.

ONe Caviat: there are a bunch of us down here (me excluded so far, but that may change) that put in Vortech's in Daily Drivers...NOT that you cant do that, but there are always issues which require downtime (even if it is easy) and it gets frustrating not having another car to drive while youre working on it. Im looking for a hoopty right now, because I sent my VOrtech back for "reconditioning service".

I got a car to borrow for now, and I must say, IM taking stuff apart to clean, tune, polish, upgrade, etc. It is nice.

Bottom line is that it is hard to have a Vortech as an ONLY driver because of time needed to work on the car.

GOOD LUCK THOUGH!"
RC

what are you talking about, if he got a new kit seems like only downtime they would have would be the installation unless they blow somthing up or the vortech going out which shouldn't happen right away on a new kit..........

94GTLaserRC · Apr 20, 2005

igotyofire said:
what are you talking about, if he got a new kit seems like only downtime they would have would be the installation unless they blow somthing up or the vortech going out which shouldn't happen right away on a new kit..........

He is not putting a new kit on a new car.. My comment is based on my experience AND 3 others around me who have since gotten rid of theirs.

Blown Headgaskets.
Overheating/changing radiator
Leaking Tstat housing.
Leaking oil
timing issues
A/F issues.

All can be worked out, but Im telling you RIGHT NOW, you will get really frustrated when you have to RUSH to fix something because you need the car that day...What do you do if you blow a HG, and youre scheduled at work the next 4 days in a row, and you live 10 miles from work??

All IM saying is the more power you have and the more things you do to your car, the less you can depend on it as your ONLY car to have.

IM looking for a hoopty right now.
RC

ProKiller · Apr 20, 2005

GET ANOTHER CAR BEFORE YOU PUT ON THE VORTECH! that should be the first thing. get your intake and tb(70mm IMO). then save up for a beater car/daily driver. it is worth the money.

i never thought i would waste money on another car when i could spend it on the mustang, but getting stranded in the snow at work for 6 hours after your off waiting for a ride isn't fun once, let alone 3 times this year. get some reliable, so the mods you do to the stang will be much less aggrivating and stressful. trust me.

and on the power adder side, if i had the money, i would toss this vortech and either get a turbo/TT, or a procharger. the lack of intercooler is a real downer for good boost.

94GTLaserRC · Apr 20, 2005

ProKiller said:
GET ANOTHER CAR BEFORE YOU PUT ON THE VORTECH! that should be the first thing. get your intake and tb(70mm IMO). then save up for a beater car/daily driver. it is worth the money.

i never thought i would waste money on another car when i could spend it on the mustang, but getting stranded in the snow at work for 6 hours after your off waiting for a ride isn't fun once, let alone 3 times this year. get some reliable, so the mods you do to the stang will be much less aggrivating and stressful. trust me.

and on the power adder side, if i had the money, i would toss this vortech and either get a turbo/TT, or a procharger. the lack of intercooler is a real downer for good boost.

RC

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