Throttle by wire?

Throttle by wire can be tuned right, but it takes a little trial and error. My dad's '03 4Runner has it and it's not bad, feels just like any other large SUV. I've never driven a corvette with it but I imagine it's pretty good.

I've driven/worked with tons of GM cars with electronic throttle control. When it's tuned properly, you can't even tell it's there. And in fact, it can not only save gas by closing the throttle on coasting, etc, but can save your ass in the even that you stomp on it in park/neutral.

That said.. it's a bitch to tune. Electronic throttle systems, because they have the potential to be DISASTEROUS if something goes wrong, are EXTREMELY secure and hard to tamper with. Not fun for modders.

DanM said:

I've driven/worked with tons of GM cars with electronic throttle control. When it's tuned properly, you can't even tell it's there. And in fact, it can not only save gas by closing the throttle on coasting, etc, but can save your ass in the even that you stomp on it in park/neutral.

That said.. it's a bitch to tune. Electronic throttle systems, because they have the potential to be DISASTEROUS if something goes wrong, are EXTREMELY secure and hard to tamper with. Not fun for modders.

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Sigh, they just keep making everything more complicated for modders. It's become so bad that they're actually trying to get legislation passed to get automakers to stop making it impossible for normal people to work on their cars.

My 2003 Lincoln LS has EEC-V and throttle by wire. Initially it had some throttle lag and trannie shifting issues. After the latest software update I have no complaints, the car and engine are GREAT!

You guys worrying about the throttle by wire on on '05 stang are wasting your time. It will not be a problem.

szer0 said:

Sigh, they just keep making everything more complicated for modders. It's become so bad that they're actually trying to get legislation passed to get automakers to stop making it impossible for normal people to work on their cars.

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Don't blame the auto makers. The primary driving force for ETC is the new more stringent emission regulations.

szer0 said:

Sigh, they just keep making everything more complicated for modders. It's become so bad that they're actually trying to get legislation passed to get automakers to stop making it impossible for normal people to work on their cars.

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Ford doesn't care about you wanting to modify your car. They care about meeting the standards the Gov't lays down for them so they can sell cars and make money. Throttle by wire helps them meet the standard. So they use it. It also is easier (ie..cheaper) to plug a wiring harness in than it is to route a cable to the throttle body. Plus it eliminates a way for vibration to get into the passenger cabin, which helps reduce NVH.

Also, it's my understanding that the computer takes pedal input, current speed, and other factors into consideration and opens the throttle body exactly enough to deliver as much power as possible. This allows the airflow into the engine to occur at maximum velocity, which is when an engine makes best power. It is possible that the throttle by wire setup could be a very good thing. The more control you have over an engine, the more power you can get from it.

its gonna be like windows. update all the date for better results. or maybe like video cards. i want to see them try to stop people from working on their cars. that will deff result in some unemployed legislators.

ryanrule said:

its gonna be like windows. update all the date for better results. or maybe like video cards. i want to see them try to stop people from working on their cars. that will deff result in some unemployed legislators.

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No unemployed legislators yet. I have heard that some states - I believe I remember Mass., among others - have actually made it a crime to modify your own car from factory specs, and they are citing people for "incorrect height" and other nonsense. Any first hand info out there?????

Many subdivisions now prohibit people from working on their own cars, even inside their own garages. I wouldn't buy there, but you have to ask.. they won't tell you until after you have committed.