There are a ton of topics under this subject. Just search for thumper here in the 94-95 section. I still believe that putting money into ported stockers is a short term gain with a long term loss. That's just my opinion on ported stock heads in general. You can find decent used aluminum heads for around the same amount of money and lose 50lbs off of the nose of the car at the same time which is ALWAYS good, no matter what the car's purpose is.
A buddy of mine just picked up a brand new, still in the box set of trick flows for $900 shipped. There are deals out there if you have the time to look for them. I do understand where you are coming from but for the few hundred dollars difference between the thumpers and even a new set of aluminum heads I think you are better off saving for a just a bit longer and getting the aluminum. The flow will be good out of the box, you'll save weight, and they too can be ported if and when you ever feel the need. With any ported stocker you are going to be pretty much at the limit of their flow capability when you put them on, and even if they have a little more room to grow by the time you pull them off and have them re-done you are going to have over what you would have if you just bought a good set of aluminum heads from the get go. A long time ago I was in your same boat and lucky for me the people around showed me that putting any money into a stock head was not a wise decision on so many levels. If I can give you any advice, it would be to wait and get yourself a good set of aftermarket aluminum heads, in the end I truly believe you will be happier.
Your point makes sense fiveo. You can't be waiting forever to get x amount of dollars to have the best combo. Otherwise you will never get there. The budget has to end somewhere. KC has good points but I think a budget is a bdget..next thing, either the wife wants to kill you or your proj never gets done or you go into too much debt and it aint worth it. I would get the thumpers or a used set of gt40's more likely.
hell people with gt40/gt40p explorer engines are near the 300rwhp mark... so if thats all your looking for... y not??? Budget was a huge part of my build... i found an engine for $1200 wih headers/ energy suspension mounts and a bunch of parts... was suposed to be fresh rebuild but wasnt so i took the guy to court... and got $600 back... so now i have a set of nice trickflow heads/ bbk headers/ mounts/ and a b cam that i paid $600 and some of my time for... the cam i sold for $100 so now im out $500... so i think i got a good deal... just had the heads rebuilt for $300 and they look great... we are starting to put the engine together on sunday... There are deals to be found... just be careful... Its always good to "know" who your dealing with... poka helped me out big time by selling me his shortblock... just keep your eyes open... im sure you will find something... is it worth the extra $x00 for a nice head over ported ones... i think so... just rember... there is other small expenses that will add up quickly... gaskets/oil/etc. so keep that in mind as well
Your point makes sense fiveo. You can't be waiting forever to get x amount of dollars to have the best combo. Otherwise you will never get there. The budget has to end somewhere. KC has good points but I think a budget is a bdget..next thing, either the wife wants to kill you or your proj never gets done or you go into too much debt and it aint worth it. I would get the thumpers or a used set of gt40's more likely.
I have a set of Thumpers E7s and the work done to the heads was BEAUTIFUL. I have a set of 1.7 rollers on a stock cam and the power is very nice. My set up has a lot of top end power and decent low end. I am very pleased with the work and dealing with Thumper couldn't have been any better. Very nice guy to work with. With that being said, I wish I had taken the time to find a set of cheap GT-40s and had those worked on instead of having the stock heads done just to have room to expand. The Thumper E7s flow enough to support power to 12 secs so for my build it's plenty. I toyed with the idea of going alum. or some other cast iron head but for my build and needs, a stock ported head fit.
i feel my expectations are very realistic. a mild iron headed hci combo should have great potential of making 270ish whp with the proper supporting parts.
now my turn: im not bashing eitherbut it seems every thread i post that has anything to do with iron heads, is crushed by aluminum head benefit talk. here is the cut and dry of it as i see it. iron heads are good. aluminum heads are better. iron heads can make good power. aluminum heads can make more power. typically ALUMINUM HEADS COST MORE. this thread did not ask a comparison or contrast of iron to aluminum. simply asked input on the thumper e7s. i am trying to do a budget HCI. to me, budget is save where you can so you can put the money that you saved into the other parts you need.
please dont take me wrong on this and think i am being rude, i mean no harm. i also do not want to discourage anyone from posting because you guys help is very much appreciated.
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