Time to pu the Timing Chain Cover back on, I need some help!!!

[Kdubslugga]

I just got my new timing chain cover today, and its time to bolt this sucker on and do some drivin. I bought the Gasket kit, and it came with all the neccesary gaskets but i think there is a few i dont need in there, does that seem right? All i need is the Gasket that seals between the timing chain cover and the block as well as the timing chain cover and the water pump right? Also theres that metal circular thing "sorry i dont know what its called" i cannot get that thing on for the life of me how does it go on, i greased it up and tryed to hit it with a rubber mallet, and its goin nowhere.. help me

 

[Juiced88Coupe]

you are correct on the 2 gaskets that you need, as for removing the front crank seal I used a piece of pipe that was the size of the seal and a hammer set it on a vice...no biggie

Matt

 

[Blue Thunder]

Also theres that metal circular thing "sorry i dont know what its called" i cannot get that thing on for the life of me how does it go on, i greased it up and tryed to hit it with a rubber mallet, and its goin nowhere.. help me

Don't use grease on that crank snout seal. The seal is factory-coated with a thin layer of sealant. Clean off all the grease on both surfaces before you install it.
If you've never installed one before, get someone to do it who has. If you fail to install it correctly, it may leak.
Once you have the seal installed, use something like red spray permatex contact adhesive to glue the gasket to the cover, and the other gasket to the water pump, both aligned correctly with the holes. Apply a very thin layer of oil to the inside rubber ring of the seal and then slide the cover over the crank snout and into position on the block. Tighten bolts finger tight. Don't torque them yet.
Slide the harmonic balancer onto the crank snout just enough to come into contact with the seal. By doing this, you align the cover/seal perfectly with the sealing surface of the balancer, which will help prevent leaks. Lightly tighten a few of the bolts to secure the cover, and remove the balancer again. Mount water pump on timing cover, and torque all bolts.

 

[Blue Thunder]

On a side note, I spent several hours removing all casting flash, grinding and polishing my timing cover. A smoothed and polished timing cover looks cool on a 302.

 

[Kdubslugga]

Another question for ya!!! On the new timing chain cover there is a little grove on the crank shaft opening area, a circular groove that looks like the seal would fit in perfect, and it does, the only problem is its opposite of the stock broken timing chain cover, is this ok?? Hopefully you understand what i just said. I inserted the crank seal opposite of the stock timing chain cover because there was an area that outlined the opening of the hole for the crank seal to perfect in. I figured this was the correct way to install it why else whould that be there and why else whould it fit perfect? Hopefully im right.

 

[Kdubslugga]

Another question for ya!!! On the new timing chain cover there is a little grove on the crank shaft opening area, a circular groove that looks like the seal would fit in perfect, and it does, the only problem is its opposite of the stock broken timing chain cover, is this ok?? Hopefully you understand what i just said. I inserted the crank seal opposite of the stock timing chain cover because there was an area that outlined the opening of the hole for the crank seal to perfect in. I figured this was the correct way to install it why else whould that be there and why else whould it fit perfect? Hopefully im right.

 

[Kdubslugga]

did i install the seal correctly?

 

[jaymac]

As I'm doing my install soon, I'd like to know this answer ^^^

 

[mustangsally93]

I am also doing a put back togther. I.E new heads, upper and lower intake,also cam. But I don't know what you were talking about when put the crank seal, I'm so F#$#ing lost!! If you can help me too, I got all the stuff I need other then the gaskets. But I'm not using a timing chain Im using a pete jackson timing gear. I don't know if that matter, So if you can help me I would say thanks..

 

[cobradvm]

The crank seal is a metal ring with a rubber seal around the inside of it. If you are reusing the old timing chain cover, you will need to knock the old seal out, and put a new one in. You can use a pipe the same size as the seal, and rest the cover on two 2x4s and whack it out using the pipe and hammer.
Once you have it out, clean up the cover, and then set the seal on - it is a tight press fit seal - a rubber mallet is not enough to get it on - I used short length of a 2x4 on top of the seal and hit it gently with a hammer so as not to damage the seal as you hammer it in. It takes a fair amount of force to knock it in. Make sure you put it the right way in (I would have to go look at mine to remember which side you put it in from - I think the flange of the seal is on the outside of the cover).
Once the seal is on the cover, test fit it, to make sure everything lines up okay - there is quite a bit of movement of the cover before the bolts are tight, so you can move it around quite a bit to make sure the seal is perfectly centered around the crank.
Once you are happy with that, then take some engine oil and lube the part of the seal that contacts the crank - you do not want a dry seal on start up or it may burn it up. What I do then, is put a thin layer or RTV on the timing cover, put the gasket on, put a thin layer on the block mating surface, and put the cover on. I use two bolts that do not go through the water pump to hold it in place and make sure it is centered. Then get the water pump - I usually already have the backing plate and its gasket in place. Do the same thing with it - apply rtv, gasket and then RTV again, and put on the water pump. Place a couple of water pump bolts in place and then double check how the timing cover is sitting relative to the crank - needs to be perfectly centered. Also check how the timing cover is sitting relative to the block - it may not be quite flush - that's okay so long as the seal is centered over the crank - RTV will take care of the timing cover/block issue when you put on the pan.

HTH