Timing question.

6Stang7

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I just set the timing on the stang @ 10 degrees BTDC. However, it ran a lot smoother at a higher advancment....much higher. It looked like it was at 15-20 degrees!!!! What gives? Shouldn't the motor be pining like mad by then? I have low compression (I am assuming around 8.4:1 tp 9:1), but that shouldn't make that much of a difference...should it? The engine is a 1978 302.

-Shaun

 

rbohm

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more than compression ratio, cylinder pressure is the key here. a low compression engine can tolerate, and usually needs, more timing than a high compression engine does. most engines like timing between 10 and 14 degrees initial and 34-38 degrees total. that said, perhaps your balancer has slipped and is giving you erronious readings. as long as you are not getting any spark knock, or have a hard time starting the engine, especially when hot, push the timing back to 15 degrees indicated.

 

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Ozsum67

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Why not just time the engine without a light usinf a tach or vacumm gauge? That is the only true way to get optimum performance.

 

brianj5600

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How do you set timing with a vacuum gauge? I always though that timing had to do with combustion chamber and piston top design as well as fuel type.

 

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jesserose17

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Mine runs great at 16 BTC, so I wouldn't worry too much. Most performance engines are set around 12-18 BTC.

 

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Ozsum67

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brianj5600 said:

How do you set timing with a vacuum gauge? I always though that timing had to do with combustion chamber and piston top design as well as fuel type.

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You simply advance the timing until you aquire the greatest amount of vacumm without pinging at WOT.

 

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67GTA-FB429

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I have my timing at 10-12. and I have adjusted the mixture screws until the vaccum gauge is almost steady, there is a 1-2" bounce. I am going to try the vaccum gauge timing adjustment and see how that works on smothing out the idle. Yeah I know, I have a really big cam and it will be lumpy.

 

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Ozsum67

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67GTA-FB429 said:

I have my timing at 10-12. and I have adjusted the mixture screws until the vaccum gauge is almost steady, there is a 1-2" bounce. I am going to try the vaccum gauge timing adjustment and see how that works on smothing out the idle. Yeah I know, I have a really big cam and it will be lumpy.

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Good luck with it. As you know, a lump cam will make for lower than normal vac gauge readings and fluctuations on the needle. For a stock engine, a steady needle is desired. Anything less may indicate valve train problems or other internal wear.

 

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67GTA-FB429

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it is an experiment....see if I can smooth it out a little more...and yeah, it is real lumpy.