TIMING TROUBES

[cherokeetrinity]

ok i had posted earlier about getting no spark, first off i want to say without being a dick that everyone here was wrong, everyone that answered said that this ignition module off of a 95 bronco would work in my mustang, in the bronco it was mounted on the firewall, well that was my no spark problem, in a mustang the TFI module is mounted on the distributor and has three plugs on top that makes it possible for the hall sensor to communicate with the computer, the 95 bronco does not have a hall sensor. as soon as i went and got the right distributor to accomodate the new TFI module i got spark..... im not being an ******* i would just like everyone to know that for future reference incase anyone does what i did................

OK so i got the car runninng, but i cannot get it in time, i got it to top dead center, made sure the rotor was pointing at number one, and put the motor in the firing order for the bronco, no there are a few different firing orders, which one do i use?? i used the one for the bronco and it still seems to have a miss, no matter what i do i cannot get rid of it, i pulled every plug and made sure i had spark, and i do on ALL cylinders!!! is it possible that the Spout component is bad? ( the small grey box that is just hanging there by the tfi plug) ?? i cant seem to figure this out!! any help is greatly appreciated

 

[liljoe07]

What firing order you using?
What cam is installed?
What ECM you using?

 

[cherokeetrinity]

15426378 firing order
stock cam and stock ecu for an automatic. which i have been told doesnt matter

 

[liljoe07]

Stock Cam and ECM from the bronco?

 

[liljoe07]

Try the 13726548 firing order.

 

[cherokeetrinity]

i tried the other firing order and i get the same thing, ill try it again though, the ecu is from the mustang,

 

[liljoe07]

Since its a mustang ECM the injector firing order is 13726548. The Ignition firing order needs to be the same. But the Cam has to have the same firing order. From what I know the Firing order from the 95 Bronco 302 was 13726548. The 15426378 is an older 302 firing order.

 

[cherokeetrinity]

so does that mean the this motor wont work unless i get a cam for a mustang?? what do i have to do in order to fix the problem??

 

[liljoe07]

As far as I know the 95 302 Bronco uses the same firing order as the HO Mustang uses. You should be fine with the 1372 firing order. So use that firng order.

This may not be a Spark or Firing order problem. It could be and injector problem.

Check the Large Black and White 10 PIN connectors behind the intake. Take them loose, and clean and tighten the terminals up. The see how she runs.

 

[cherokeetrinity]

but that still doest explain why when i pull ANY random plug she still runs the same

 

[liljoe07]

but that still doest explain why when i pull ANY random plug she still runs the same

So.....No matter what plug you pull, it runs the same.


Theres almost no way that could happen. Any cylinder that is working properly, will show an effect when you take either fuel or spark away from it.

 

[liljoe07]

Tell you what............Run a cylinder balance test.

This is the same as a KOER code test. But after the codes repeat themselves, do a brief Wide Open Throttle and set back and let the Test run. After a few minutes, the ECM will flash some codes.

1=cylinder 1
2= cylinder 2
ect.ect

9 flashes will be a Test pass

 

[cherokeetrinity]

ok this might sound retarded but what is a koer??? i really dont know what you are talking about, does the instrument manel flash?? or what??? im lost

 

[cherokeetrinity]

and also for the record this motor ran like a beast right before we pulled it out of the bronco!! all i did was changer the intake to a mustang intake and bought a mustang distributor

 

[liljoe07]

KOER= KEY ON, Engine Running

Have not ever ran a code test from the ECM before? If you havent, then Ill explain it for you.

Ive gave you a few things try. Try them, they are free to do.

 

[cherokeetrinity]

no i never had run a koer test before, how do you do it??

 

[liljoe07]

no i never had run a koer test before, how do you do it??

Troublcodes.net Trouble Codes OBD & OBD2 Trouble Codes and Technical info & Tool Store. By BAT Auto Technical

 

[cherokeetrinity]

those codes arent for a mustang as stated in the article

 

[liljoe07]

You still use the same directions for the Self Test Connector. Which is the 4 diagrams posted at the top of the page.

 

[cherokeetrinity]

ok, i am going to do this after work tomorrow. but say that this doesnt solve the problem and the problem lies in the computer, the engine is firing the 154.. firing order and the computer is firing the injectors in the 137... order, would i be able to change the plugs to the correct injectors to make it work or is there a computer for the mustang that uses the injector firing order that i need?? in the 90 mustangs was the 5.0 H.O a different injector order than the plain 5.0??