I need a new head liner for my 90' hatch w/ sunroof. I'm debating doing it myself with the TMI piece (which comes with a new ABS board) or just go to an upholstery shop and have them do it? Anyone do this?
TMI head liner or......?
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STEVE PATTON
I smell a conspiracy
I went to JoAnn fabrics and bought headliner material [lotsa colors in stock] and a can 3M spray adhesive [also from there]removed my board,cleaned it well,and,redid myself .it gets obvious how to do it .
I am about to do mine. I ordered the headliner material on Ebay form a place called prestige. They sent me a sample. It's almost a perfect match. I plan to do what Steve did.
I took my old one to an upholstery shop. They took the old liner off and put new stuff on. It wasnt hard putting it back in the car. I also have a sunroof, so I had to cut the hole out. I just started small then trimmed it to fit. Used 3M spray glue at the sunroof opening. The sunroof seal also helps to hold it in place. If I had it to do over I would have just changed out the cloth myself and skipped the upholstery shop. I guess it really depends on if your backing board is in really bad shape.
I'll have to tear it all out and see how my 29 year old wooden board is holding up. I like the idea of the TMI piece with the ABS but not sure if it's worth paying so much for it. Going to Joann's fabric store sounds much easier and budget friendly but I'd hate it if my headliner delaminated shortly after.
I have pulled several headliners out recently. The backing boards have all been in great shape. Only if moisture has somehow gotten to it would the backing board be bad.
I replaced mine years ago with the abs piece, my board was trashed from the sunroof leaking, you have to keep those drain holes clean.
I also took the opportunity to treat any surface rust in that area too.
I also took the opportunity to treat any surface rust in that area too.
I did mine by way of the Joann's fabrics route. $10 in fabric and some 3M spray adhesive. Just need a sharp knife to trim off the excess when you install. Was fairly easy
This was 10 years ago. Still holding up fine
This was 10 years ago. Still holding up fine
When you get the spray contact adhesive, be sure to get the type labeled for headliners. The regular interior spray adhesive is not as strong. You might as well use the headliner stuff for the whole interior like the community college (and Hot Rod) recommends.
Also, if you do not like wrinkles, it helps to have an assistant holding up the end of the fabric while you get it exactly where you want it.
Also, if you do not like wrinkles, it helps to have an assistant holding up the end of the fabric while you get it exactly where you want it.
Just finished mine.
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I took out all that nasty insulation and put fresh dynamat on the roof. It's hard to believe but my interior smells great now. I guess that old insulation had some serious odors in it. I have a total of $65 in this project.
Does the $65 include the dynamat? You've made up my mind, I'll DIY with some material from a fabric store (Joannes) so long as my headliner board is in good shape which I believe it is.
I took out all that nasty insulation and put fresh dynamat on the roof. It's hard to believe but my interior smells great now. I guess that old insulation had some serious odors in it. I have a total of $65 in this project.
Usually the biggest issue with the boards is the foam "stuff" they put on it. I scraped mine all off and then applied my adhesive.
I think my costs was $10 for the fabric, and $9 or so for the can of 3M super 77 or super 90 adhesive. I forget which I used as one was more ideal for fabric/cardboard.
I still have the can, and have used it on many other things as well so that diluted the cost. I do plan on redoing my headliner with a different material (matches the seats) so now i'm hoping I can remove the old stuff without damaging the board. It's been on for 10+ years with no issue.
Edit: Make sure you have a sharp knife and/or scissors for the final trimming. Overall it was an easy job. Trickiest part was laying the material on the board evenly. I got someone to give me a hand to avoid wrinkles. After that, pretty easy to trim and install.
I think my costs was $10 for the fabric, and $9 or so for the can of 3M super 77 or super 90 adhesive. I forget which I used as one was more ideal for fabric/cardboard.
I still have the can, and have used it on many other things as well so that diluted the cost. I do plan on redoing my headliner with a different material (matches the seats) so now i'm hoping I can remove the old stuff without damaging the board. It's been on for 10+ years with no issue.
Edit: Make sure you have a sharp knife and/or scissors for the final trimming. Overall it was an easy job. Trickiest part was laying the material on the board evenly. I got someone to give me a hand to avoid wrinkles. After that, pretty easy to trim and install.
A trick I learned from my upholstery guy was to pre fit the material and mark the corners on back side with a marker, just a light touch so no bleed through, then start at one end and unfold or unroll the material a little at a time, he used a small paint roller starting in the center on the end, trim the excess leaving enough to fold over and glue that down.
He used one of those exacto knives.
He used one of those exacto knives.
Dang that looks great. You said you removed all the brown factory foam. Did the material you bought have a thickness to it or did you lay some new thin foam down first? I'm assuming the dynamat was placed on the sheetmetal roof first? I also like the newer dome light.
I took out all that nasty insulation and put fresh dynamat on the roof. It's hard to believe but my interior smells great now. I guess that old insulation had some serious odors in it. I have a total of $65 in this project.
STEVE PATTON
I smell a conspiracy
the stuff at JoAnns is headliner material with the correct foam on it
Yes mine had the foam already. It is material specifically for headliners. When you pull your headliner down you will be greeted with a shower of dirty musty old insulation. It makes a mess! The dynamat goes on the roof sheetmetal under the headliner where the old insulation was.
The $65 is total for the headliner fabric, the spray adhesive and the new wire wheel I bought for my drill. I had leftover dynamat that I used. I'm sure you can find the material cheaper where you are. I am "blessed" to be in Hawaii where the people making $135K are considered low income and a gallon of milk is $8.50.....
NY is bad, their median income is 95k I think. And you have snow AND you have that crazy woman in Congress....
