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turbinesurgeon

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Anybody know what that little switch above the 3/4 shift lever does on a 73 toploader?
 
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No one????
 

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I can't place "a little switch"... Got a picture?
 

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Reverse lights.
 
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Neutral safety switch
 
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I have a reverse switch on the shifter which looks original. I don't think four speeds have neutral safety switch's' do they? I will get a picture of it tomorrow
 
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Interesting. Yes a picture is needed. The reverse lights should be on the case activated by the linkage rod and there is no neutral switch.
 
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Sorry it took so long, here is a pick of that switch.

//http://cid-1b0b9aed00b20a35.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/New%20album/000%7C_0044.JPG
 
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Lets try this
 

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your link does not work. Does it look like this?
 

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Are you sure that is a toploader? I have two and either of them look like that.
 

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Are there any part numbers you can see on the case or the tail shaft? I think you have a 70's 3+1 OD unit.....
 

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I'm 100% certain that is the reverse light switch. If you want to double check me, put a multimeter with one lead on each of those two terminals and shift the trans into reverse. If the circuit completes when in reverse its the reverse light switch.
 
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valley firearms said:
Are you sure that is a toploader? I have two and either of them look like that.
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Its a 73 toploader RUG HEH.

I tested it with a multimeter today to see if it would close while in reverse and it didn't but oddly enough it closed when shifting into 3rd
 

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Strange... its definately the reverse switch...

How are you puting it into reverse ? From the shift levers or with the shifter handle ?
 
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Here's his link:

 
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I think the switch is something for emissions. I downloaded a wiring schematic for a 72 and it shows a switch for manual transmissions. One wire from the electronic spark control and the other goes to an emission vacuum solenoid. I don't have that stuff on my car, it must have been removed from a prior owner. The schematic says the switch is open in third and forth but when I tested it closed in third. I found a parts diagram at the same web site which had a lot of usefull info. the switch is number7E449. http://www.7173parts.com/images/tech/illustrations/9881.jpg
 
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turbinesurgeon said:
I think the switch is something for emissions. I downloaded a wiring schematic for a 72 and it shows a switch for manual transmissions. One wire from the electronic spark control and the other goes to an emission vacuum solenoid. I don't have that stuff on my car, it must have been removed from a prior owner. The schematic says the switch is open in third and forth but when I tested it closed in third. I found a parts diagram at the same web site which had a lot of usefull info. the switch is number7E449. http://www.7173parts.com/images/tech/illustrations/9881.jpg
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The Ford book lists a such a switch for 73 Torino and Mustang with 4-speed manual transmission.

D2OZ-7E449-A Switch, Seat Belt Warning Sensor (D2AR-7E449-BA)

I'm guessing unless you are hard-core trailered show you won't bother fixing this one.
 
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2+2GT said:
The Ford book lists a such a switch for 73 Torino and Mustang with 4-speed manual transmission.

D2OZ-7E449-A Switch, Seat Belt Warning Sensor (D2AR-7E449-BA)

I'm guessing unless you are hard-core trailered show you won't bother fixing this one.
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I guess by when you get to third gear the seat belt warning goes on, I won't be trying to hook this up. I guess people get rid of stuff like this along with those key buzzer relays.
 
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turbinesurgeon said:
I guess by when you get to third gear the seat belt warning goes on, I won't be trying to hook this up. I guess people get rid of stuff like this along with those key buzzer relays.
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IIRC, it was supposed to buzz and illuminate in any gear. The 73 also had a sensor strip in the seat bottom, and switch in the belt buckle, to make sure both front seats had their belts on, even a bag of groceries. Remember, this was the heyday of the safety fascists. Some cars disabled the starter unless everybody had a seat belt on.
 
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