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Hey guys, I was thinking that reinforcing my torque boxes might be a good idea. I have a welded in 6pt cage in there, would I still need to reinforce them? Or does the cage help them? Also same question for sub frame connectors. Thanks!
 

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Yes it’s still a good idea the cage won’t help support the torque boxes but will help stiffen the chassis. Sub frame connectors are almost required in a foxbody as well. Good luck with your project
 
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bentley429isBAC said:
Yes it’s still a good idea the cage won’t help support the torque boxes but will help stiffen the chassis. Sub frame connectors are almost required in a foxbody as well. Good luck with your project
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Thanks for confirming, this should be fun and a good reason to pick up a mig welder
 

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Yeah, that cage has little to do with the torque boxes ripping out.
 
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What a can of worms I just opened haha, while trying to research for a good reinforcement kit I've been scared into replacing my ssm lift bars for something else.
 

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Well, the BMR reinforcement kit looks pretty good.. but I'm not sure on control arms yet.. the way it sits now there's no upper control arms. I'm going to be diving local PA roads with twists, turns, and bumps and hit the dragstrip a few times a year. I put the car up on jack stands today lol. I'm ready to get it right but I don't have the research done.
 

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I don't know where you are in this entire project but it sounds to me like what you're looking for is the MM 3-Link Torque Arm setup.
 

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I've give that a look and I'll revive my build thread with questions thanks!
 

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DeathProof88 said:
Well, the BMR reinforcement kit looks pretty good.. but I'm not sure on control arms yet.. the way it sits now there's no upper control arms. I'm going to be diving local PA roads with twists, turns, and bumps and hit the dragstrip a few times a year. I put the car up on jack stands today lol. I'm ready to get it right but I don't have the research done.
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Start with this book. Great theory and if you are able to fabricate you could build most of what you want with the included drawings.

 
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Start with this book. Great theory and if you are able to fabricate you could build most of what you want with the included drawings.

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Thanks, I'll check that out.
 

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I've give that a look and I'll revive my build thread with questions thanks!
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The Torque Arm: The best improvement for your solid axle Mustang
 

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What a can of worms I just opened haha, while trying to research for a good reinforcement kit I've been scared into replacing my ssm lift bars for something else.
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Are trying to drag race the car or road race ?

Sounds like drag race by the control arms you have. The Ssm and the old mega bites were setup to jam the pinion angle in a way to try to make the car bite harder. The boxes with no reinforcement will tear out over time with the solid style bushing the Ssm
Have in them.

The simple old school tq box reinforcement kit with the plates that sandwich them together then stitch weld will take you a long way.

I have UPR pro series double adjustable upper in my car, team z street beast single adjustable lowers, strange 10 way shocks, UPR bolt on pro street anti roll bar , and team z drag springs. The cars been 1.27 60 foot with close to 100 hp pulled out of it

You don’t need anything super fancy to make them work.

Heavy Duty Upper & Lower Torque Box Kit (fits 79-04 Ford Mustang) UPR

UPR Products Upper & Lower Torque Box and Floor Pan re-enforcement kit will make your 79-04 Mustang Rear Suspension Bullet Proof.
www.uprproducts.com
 
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Just weld them up. If you can catch them before they start tearing you will be good to go. There was an article in MM&FF that showed how to weld them up and add some stiffeners. I think I have a copy of the article.

@Noobz347 - if I can find the article where can I put it so it doesn’t get buried on here?
 

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Just weld them up. If you can catch them before they start tearing you will be good to go. There was an article in MM&FF that showed how to weld them up and add some stiffeners. I think I have a copy of the article.

@Noobz347 - if I can find the article where can I put it so it doesn’t get buried on here?
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Do what I did with the Fuel Flow Forensics article. We'll put it into a file and make it downloadable from the resource section.
 
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Are trying to drag race the car or road race ?

Sounds like drag race by the control arms you have. The Ssm and the old mega bites were setup to jam the pinion angle in a way to try to make the car bite harder. The boxes with no reinforcement will tear out over time with the solid style bushing the Ssm
Have in them.

The simple old school tq box reinforcement kit with the plates that sandwich them together then stitch weld will take you a long way.

I have UPR pro series double adjustable upper in my car, team z street beast single adjustable lowers, strange 10 way shocks, UPR bolt on pro street anti roll bar , and team z drag springs. The cars been 1.27 60 foot with close to 100 hp pulled out of it

You don’t need anything super fancy to make them work.

Heavy Duty Upper & Lower Torque Box Kit (fits 79-04 Ford Mustang) UPR

UPR Products Upper & Lower Torque Box and Floor Pan re-enforcement kit will make your 79-04 Mustang Rear Suspension Bullet Proof.
www.uprproducts.com
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Thanks for the advice, a few times a season I'll be at the drag strip, other times I take a cruise around the area. If your setup is decent for street/strip use I might just copy yours.
 

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Thanks for the advice, a few times a season I'll be at the drag strip, other times I take a cruise around the area. If your setup is decent for street/strip use I might just copy yours.
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I drive my car 60 plus miles round trip to work 2-3 times a week sometimes when there isn’t salt on the ground.

Still has a Front sway bar

Has full tubular UPRk member and Viking front coil overs with heavy ass 300lb springs. Drives like a normal car
 
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Thanks for the advice, a few times a season I'll be at the drag strip, other times I take a cruise around the area. If your setup is decent for street/strip use I might just copy yours.
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Street trim then a rear wheel swap and strut and shock adjustment and you’re making passes
 
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Do what I did with the Fuel Flow Forensics article. We'll put it into a file and make it downloadable from the resource section.
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I'll be on the lookout
 
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