figured out the issue with the race car... without getting really in depth with it our timing curve was causing the front end come down and unload the rear tires. but we went 5.11@138 in the 1/4 finals then in the semi's threw pretty much everything we could timing wise to the 2nd kit and ended up doing a BIG OL WHEELIE! could have DEF won the race seeing how bob KILLED the guy on the tree. but we just didnt go tight enough with the front end.