tranny questions..

Keasbey · May 12, 2004

I'm thinking to do a A4LD- T-5 swap.. so I wanted to know if a 85 mustang manual tranny will fit on my 87 stang?

And I wanted to know from the people who do the swap, if it is really hard to do?

thanks

ninety2.3 · May 12, 2004

I may be wrong, but I thought that the pre 87s had a 4 speed manual tranny. So if thats true, I wouldnt want to do that. Someone should say something though.

Pro-Hawk · May 13, 2004

The Borg-Warner T-5 came out in 1983 from what I've read but I'm not sure how true that is.

Check out Stingers site he's got some pretty cool imfo on this swap that can help.

Jayber · May 13, 2004

The 2.3 didnt get the 5spd in N/A form until 87.

Pro-Hawk · May 13, 2004

Jayber said:
The 2.3 didnt get the 5spd in N/A form until 87.

I got two different site on it and they all say 1983 mustang but don't say nothing about 2.3L or 5.0L.

http://www.moderndriveline.com/Technical_Bits/t5_history.htm

http://home.pon.net/hunnicutt/history_79_93.htm

That second one screws up a lot but if its works its got some cool mustang imfo. I also got a few more links on this but I can't find them right now.

Jayber · May 13, 2004

Mid/Late 83 5.0s got the T5. Until then the SROD 4spd was in the V8 models. I know as I exploded one on starting line back in 83 .
Im not 100% sure of the ID of the 2.3 trannys but it was definately a 4spd.

Pro-Hawk · May 13, 2004

Well I found my other imfo site and it had the gear boxes, years, and motors. All the earlier than 85' mustangs that had T-5s was 5.0Ls like everyone said The oldest 2.3L with a T-5 was 1985.

ninety2.3 · May 14, 2004

Pro-Hawk said:
The oldest 2.3L with a T-5 was 1985.

1984 SVO? It had a T5.

Def check out Stingers site, you should be fine if you can read and know how to use your head and your tools. I dont hear a lot of problems for the T5 to auto swap. I dont know about the 85 tranny into your 87...

Pro-Hawk · May 14, 2004

ninety2.3 said:
1984 SVO? It had a T5.

Def check out Stingers site, you should be fine if you can read and know how to use your head and your tools. I dont hear a lot of problems for the T5 to auto swap. I dont know about the 85 tranny into your 87...

We was or I was anyways talking N/A 2.3Ls but the site where I got that imfo doesn't say anything about the 1984 SVO having a T-5.

I checked out SVOCA's facts site and its says the 84' SVO had a T-5 and the rest a world class T-5. I'm sure its right since these guys have put a lot of work in restoring these cars and collecting data through the years.

http://www.svoca.com/mainframe.html

Here is that other imfo link that didn't say anything on a 84' SVO having a T-5.

http://www.coolcats.net/tech/advanced/t5data.html

Demented4.6 · May 14, 2004

my 86 2.3 has a four speed

Pro-Hawk · May 14, 2004

BOWTIEKILLER said:
my 86 2.3 has a four speed

That is proof that doing drug on the job is bad or maybe that worker didn't get the memo that Ford was swaping gear boxes Who knows with Ford its all ways something weird.

ka0tyk · May 15, 2004

dont put a SVO, or 5.0 T5 into your 2.3... the gear ratio's are different... find one from a 2.3 NA mustang...

Keasbey · May 15, 2004

ka0tyk said:
dont put a SVO, or 5.0 T5 into your 2.3... the gear ratio's are different... find one from a 2.3 NA mustang...

okay.. but the one that I could get is a tranny from a 85 mustang N/A

And what about the TC one? it is the same that the SVO I think? right?

thx!

i4power · May 15, 2004

86 and back all had 4-spds in 4 bangers.

Do you want a 4spd? The transmission will work, but be sure to get the bellhousing as well.

The TC and SVO had the same T-5. You won't want to use that one on your car because the gears are taller, which would make the car even slower, and a N/A 2,3 anyways.

kiddiccarus · Jul 15, 2004

RESURECTION>>>>>>>>>

Can you take a non WC tranny and make into a WC?

Keasbey · Jul 23, 2004

I don't know seriously..

I just read all the threads a second time, and I was wondering about what
could happen if I put a N/A transmission with a turbo engine? Does the car will run faster?

kiddiccarus · Jul 23, 2004

Keasbey here is the facts. Any T-5 will work as long as you have the correct parts. 5.0 T-5 needs a different input shaft to work on a 2.3. As for the NON turbo T-5 ???? I have never heard of this animal myself. There is a NON WC and a WC tenas though (World Class) I have been told that the NON will work in the turbo car just fine and 351wcoupe has been beating on his daily and the trans is fine although he keeps messing up the clutch. I am putting in a Non WC T-5 into my car as soon as I get all of the parts.

Asha'man · Jul 24, 2004

i4power said:
The TC and SVO had the same T-5. You won't want to use that one on your car because the gears are taller, which would make the car even slower, and a N/A 2,3 anyways.

Achoo!! Sorry, I'm allergic to bull$h!t. (random "I, Robot" reference ).

First gear in the TC/SVO T5 is 3.97, same as the n/a 2.3's. If there is any difference, it's that the TC/SVO unit has a lower first gear, which gives better response off the line. A V8 T5 does have a much steeper first, which will kill a 2.3, but the TC/SVO tranny is definitely desireable.

Ash

kiddiccarus · Jul 24, 2004

ka0tyk said:
dont put a SVO, or 5.0 T5 into your 2.3... the gear ratio's are different... find one from a 2.3 NA mustang...

A Human would understand that an 11% chance is enough.

Ash, did I miss something in all that I have read about a T-5 when did the SVO and N/A have a different T-5? The Non Wc was pre 85.5 and arent all T-5 WC post 85.5? Or am I wrong?

Pro-Hawk · Jul 24, 2004

kiddiccarus said:
A Human would understand that an 11% chance is enough.

Ash, did I miss something in all that I have read about a T-5 when did the SVO and N/A have a different T-5? The Non Wc was pre 85.5 and arent all T-5 WC post 85.5? Or am I wrong?

Its the gear ratio in the gear boxes thats different A 5.0l T-5 will work in a N/A 2.3L car ( pervided you do something about the imput shaft)but its a different gearing ratio. Thus you run a risk of it being a pain to drive. The same with a SVO gear box in a N.A 2.3L. This stuff is in that link I posted but I guess no one read any of it

Where are you getting your imformation on the 85.5 WC anyways

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