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Transmission Help. Another 1 1/2 to go.

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Steve69

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I have the Clutch installed and Im installing the Transmission. Ive spend
2 Hours trying to get it to go the last inch and half. Ive turned the engine
around a couple of times. Im doing this myself. Should I have a helper turner
the engine while I push the tranny forward towards the bellhousing? Im also
use the the guide studs on the top the keep it going in straight. Thank
again for the much needed help. I have my wife help me but she is a girlie
girl and not what she wants to do on a Saturday morning.

Thanks again
 

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Steve69 said:
I have the Clutch installed and Im installing the Transmission. Ive spend
2 Hours trying to get it to go the last inch and half. Ive turned the engine
around a couple of times. Im doing this myself. Should I have a helper turner
the engine while I push the tranny forward towards the bellhousing? Im also
use the the guide studs on the top the keep it going in straight. Thank
again for the much needed help. I have my wife help me but she is a girlie
girl and not what she wants to do on a Saturday morning.

Thanks again
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Are you sure that everything fits smoothly on the shaft? I've had clutch disks bind when they reach the splines. Is this part of a conversion or just a normal clutch replacement? What is different from before???

There is another trick that your girlie girl may be able to help you with. Sometimes having someone push the clutch while pushing the tranny forward will help it engage.
 
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Put the transmission in gear, and if you have a spare driveshaft yoke, plug it into the tailshaft, then using it, turn the yoke, this will in turn, turn the input shaft to let the splines on it align with the clutch splines. If that doesn't work, perhaps you don't have the clutch disc aligned with the pilot bearing on the crank. You did do this, didn't you ?
 
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if everything is lined up and nothing out of whack. I have used a pair of large channel locks. one jaw on the tranny and one on the motor and squeeze. work it on both sides of the tranny. It gives a guy a little bit more leverage. Good Luck!
 

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Ok, let me help you out. This is how I broke my last bellhousing. The splines on the clutch disc may be burred. If thats the case then you will screw everything up if you try and force it. Believe me on that.

My advice, and I know you don't wana do it because I've been there myself. Is to take the bellhouseing/clutch back off and double check that the splines fit NICE AND SMOOTH on the input shaft of the trans. That is always something to check before you bolt the entire assembly together but it is commonly overlooked because it is assumed that all parts were properly finished when you bought them. I have found that this is NOT the case. Double check it to be sure. If the slines are burred then either file them down or get another clutch disc. I know its a pain but its worse if you bend the clutch disc or crack your bellhousing...... or both.

Also, what D.Hearne said is great adivce and much easier then turning the motor. Work smart not hard =)
 
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I did test the new Clutch disc to make sure it fit. It slide on, but it was
fairly tight fit. It did slide on the input shaft once it was on. I did use
a alignement tool ot get it centered when I had bolted the pressure plate on.
I dont have my shifter on. Does it matter which lever I move to engage the
transmission? I dont want to break the bellhousing so Im going to take my
time and not try force anything.

Thanks
 
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You can put it into any gear to turn it, doesn't matter which, you're not going to break the transmission. You also won't break the bell, unless you try to force it together with clamps, bolts or anything else you could use to force it. You can use a piece of wood to use as a lever, inserted into the shifter hole and used to pry the trans forward. This, combined with Dennis's suggestion of having your gal-friend stepping on the clutch at the same time, usually does the trick. Only make sure the throw out bearing is still in it's proper place afterward.
 
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Gal Friend Went Shopping. Worked on it the last hour and got it to 1/4
to 3/8 of inch from the bellhousing. Put the drive shaft on the end and
spun it and it slipped in to that point. I spent another 30 minutes trying to
get it to go the rest of the way. Is is same to say its enter the pilot bushing or not. I was thinking last time I had to take the guide bolts out
and twist the hole tranny to get it to slide the rest of the way. Dont want
to risk it all comming back out.

Thanks
Again
 
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If all you lack is 1/4 to 3/8", it's into the pilot bearing. Now try pulling it the rest of the way with the bolts. If it doesn't slip right in the rest of the way using the bolts and an end wrench, something else is wrong. Do NOT try this with anything larger than an end wrench.
 
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I got it in

Had to pull it out a little and my Dad pushed in the clutch pedal. Thanks
again.

Steve
 
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