Tuning with Ram Air

mwhite29 · Dec 30, 2007

I've never tuned a car before, seeing as this is my first Mustang and I've only had trucks/suv's before. I plan on getting a Ram Air hood and a SCT tuner and I wondered if that was going to be hard to tune since you obviously won't be getting any Ram Air on a dyno or at idle. Or is Ram Air pretty much negligible in a tune?

DarkFireGT · Dec 30, 2007

Ram air provides 1 or 2 HP at most. Tuning is not required for ram air, so you can leave that out of your equation.

mwhite29 · Dec 30, 2007

DarkFireGT said:
Ram air provides 1 or 2 HP at most. Tuning is not required for ram air, so you can leave that out of your equation.

Well the Ram Air duct will be ran to the CAI box. If you have cooler air going into the CAI you'd think it'd be a little more than 1-2 HP wouldn't you?

1367mustang · Dec 30, 2007

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fobra559 · Dec 30, 2007

mwhite29 said:
Well the Ram Air duct will be ran to the CAI box. If you have cooler air going into the CAI you'd think it'd be a little more than 1-2 HP wouldn't you?

Only a few hp at WOT, 1-2hp sounds about right. Casey4 knows first hand by experience.

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=730233&highlight=cdc+shaker

mwhite29 · Dec 30, 2007

1367mustang said:
Hi

Trust DarkFireGT...................... He knows the Stangs well !!

Regards

Brian

Hi

I do trust DarkFireGT as he has answered some questions before for me. However, as some of you have stated on here that a CAI will give you somewhere between 20-30 hp with a tune. That is with your CAI pulling warm air from your engine compartment. If you have a cooler air from the Ram Air system going into your CAI box, I don't see how that wouldn't be more significant than 1-2 HP.

Regards

Mark

mwhite29 · Dec 30, 2007

The air will be significantly cooler being pulled in through the hood scoops, through a duct directly into the CAI box

mwhite29 · Dec 30, 2007

Doing some research ... you need to keep your factory air box with the Ram Air kit, so it's not what I want anyways.

bigcat · Dec 30, 2007

mwhite29 said:
Doing some research ... you need to keep your factory air box with the Ram Air kit, so it's not what I want anyways.

what ram air kit do you plan on using? there are many choices available, and some slight modification may be required for use with a CAI, but it is not impossible.

also, if you really want to tune for the ram air, you would have to data log while driving and compare the results to a dyno session.

mwhite29 · Dec 30, 2007

bigcat said:
what ram air kit do you plan on using? there are many choices available, and some slight modification may be required for use with a CAI, but it is not impossible.

also, if you really want to tune for the ram air, you would have to data log while driving and compare the results to a dyno session.

mwhite29 · Dec 30, 2007

also.. I wonder if that ram air kit has a drip in the bottom in case water gets into the scoops.

DarkFireGT · Dec 30, 2007

In optimal conditions, maybe 5 HP at the most. Average is 1-2. I've seen a dyno done. Sorry, no link to the results. It was several years ago.

mwhite29 · Dec 30, 2007

DarkFireGT said:
In optimal conditions, maybe 5 HP at the most. Average is 1-2. I've seen a dyno done. Sorry, no link to the results. It was several years ago.

I believe you.. I just figured bringing cooler air into the CAI box would make more HP.

jcsuli74 · Jan 1, 2008

mwhite29 said:
Doing some research ... you need to keep your factory air box with the Ram Air kit, so it's not what I want anyways.

actually i believe you have to keep the factory air box location, not the factory airbox itself. there are some CAI's that reroute the factory location (not many but a few) if you supercharge it, the ram air wont work. if you go with the CAI that relocates it to on top of the grille, same deal, wont work.

IMO if you are going to get the hood, make it work
nothing worse than the facory fake scoop ford put on the 99-04's. again my opinion

lightblade · Jan 1, 2008

A cai/tune makes most of its power from the the tune around 80%. the cai makes power mainly beacuse its less restrictive, bigger tubing, and has a highflow filter. The air being slightly cooler, or"ram air" is good for a couple hp tops.

anthony05gt · Jan 1, 2008

If you have a ram air hood and get it tuned you won't have to worry about the tune later. One reason is the hood is open while the car's being tuned and it's pulling ambient air in, not the hot air that's under a closed hood.

kooldawg6 · Jan 3, 2008

anthony05gt said:
One reason is the hood is open while the car's being tuned and it's pulling ambient air in, not the hot air that's under a closed hood.

So the true difference between the factory located CAI and a ram air system will be in the real world when the hoods are closed and not on the dyno. Thus making it much more difficult to test for. Once I get the '08 Bullitt grill, my ram air setup should be a bit more effective as I will be elimintaing the fogs in front of each of the side inlet holes

fobra559 · Jan 3, 2008

See high 12's coming

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