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Turbo 4 cylinder vs a stock 5.0

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Is there things that can be done to make a 4 cylinder turbo stang run as faster and hard as a stock 5.0? Any articles, tips, advice or experience is greatly appreciated.

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It would not be extremely difficult for a turbo 4cyl to keep up with a stock 5.0L. Question is, who really owns a stock 5.0L?
 

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DeVus1 said:
It would not be extremely difficult for a turbo 4cyl to keep up with a stock 5.0L. Question is, who really owns a stock 5.0L?
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good point. SVO's were almost just as fast as stock 5.0's. v8 stangs are just easier and cheaper to modify, in a sense, because of the plethora of aftermarket parts available compared to the 2.3's.
 

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DeVus1 said:
It would not be extremely difficult for a turbo 4cyl to keep up with a stock 5.0L. Question is, who really owns a stock 5.0L?
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I do, I do. I bought my car 100% stock virgin and she is still stock under the hood.

Wasn't there an svo in 5.0 mustang that was running 24 pounds of boost? The article never gave a dyno though.
 

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slow95gt on here had one with a boost controller and pushing 20lbs.
when he first got on it it was a 88 hp embarrisment but when the boost hit it would easily take out a stock 5.0
 

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88hp...still more than a stock honda. lol
 

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add a boost controller, throw in some boost and get it tuned and you will outdo a stock 5.0 by a long shot.
 

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It all depends on how you want it to "run". My dad has a stock SVO and it would easily handle a stock 5.0 on a curvy road. In a straight line is a different story. And as already stated, its getting harder to find a stock 5.0
 

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I have a 2.3 turbo in my 93lx. I run it at 21lbs of boost with ported intake, head, and manifold with 3" exhaust and I have handed it to plenty of bolt on 5.0's. H/C/I are a different story though. There are plenty that you can do to the 2.3t's to make them fast. Several are running low 12's and high 11's with a bigger turbo. If you want to see some of the combos, go to TurboFord.net Home. There is a thread on proven combinations. It is a great little motor, but it is very finicky.
 

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Jason that's a cool site TurboFord.net one ive neve seen before
 

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Stock for stock, not much comparison as the 5.0 will rape the 2.3 out of the hole. BUT, get yourself a manual boost controller and turn the boost up to about 17psi and it's a different story. My Merkur will slaughter a stock 5.0 once it gets moving. It's still a slug off the line but once it gets to about 3k RPM it snaps. On the highway it wouldn't even be a challenge....it'll go 65-100 almost instantly and i don't even have to downshift. All i've done to it is put a K+N on it, a small notebook sized Saab intercooler (most ghetto IC install ever) and set the boost at 17psi. It even has a 2 inch exhaust all the way back...i can't wait to get a 3'' exhaust and a ported head and intake.

Here's a really quick 2.3 Mustang without a ton of money dumped in it http://www.msvorinich.itgo.com/
 
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Thanks guys....I am thinking on buying one that is why I asked. Oh and yes I own a bone stock 5.0. I actually prefer mine that way.

Thanks for those links

Only thing I fear is I will miss the sound and torque
 

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Thanks guys....I am thinking on buying one that is why I asked. Oh and yes I own a bone stock 5.0. I actually prefer mine that way.

Thanks for those links

Only thing I fear is I will miss the sound and torque
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You WILL. Trust me. There is NO comparison between even a stock 5.0 and a mildly modded 2.3. Granted, boost is a whole different drug and it comes with its own grin inducing perks. The 2.3 is a great engine when outfitted right and can be a ton of fun, but there's a reason so many people drive 5.0s and not 2.3s.

Still, if you port and gut the intake, port the head and exhaust manifold (or just get a tubuler or log style manifold), get a nice 3 inch exhaust, throw in a decent Ebay intercooler, get a Gilis boostvalve and an adjustable fuel pressure gauge to make sure you have lots of fuel (might wanna just get a 225lph pump while you're at it) and up the boost to about 20psi and you'll have one seriously pissed off 4 banger that'll hang with just about anything in stock trim and will really shock the hell out of some of the faster cars out there. If you really put some cash in it so you can spin it to higher RPMs, then it really gets fun...but by then with the same amount of cash you'll probably still be going faster in the 5.0 with mods.


Hell just build a junkyard twin turbo setup on the 5.0 and get the best of both worlds
 

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I ran into to a guy a couple years ago at Ford Nationals in Brandenton, Florida. He was in the car show with an SVO. I don't know the PSI or what year it was. The guy had a built 4 cylinder motor with 580 rwhp. Crazy amount and the car was clean.
 

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I ran into to a guy a couple years ago at Ford Nationals in Brandenton, Florida. He was in the car show with an SVO. I don't know the PSI or what year it was. The guy had a built 4 cylinder motor with 580 rwhp. Crazy amount and the car was clean.
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Here's 535hp before it smoked the rollers

YouTube - Phil Marshall's XR4Ti 535whp BURNING OUT ON DYNO!!Rear View
 

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YouTube - 137 MPH ride along chasing a 9 second turbo 4 cyl mustang
 
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well I wanna do something different plus save on gas. I have to get a DD and if it has to be a 4 banger may as well be a ford with a little balls.
 
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My 4 banger car made 197 rwhp and 290 rwtorque. It made that torque number at 3600 rpm too!!. It also ran 13.84 @102 with a slipping clutch.
Anyway its just a stock 88 turbo coupe engine with a GN intercooler running 18 psi and has been this way for 5 years and over 80k miles. So yes you can make a 4 banger outrun a stock 5.0 and then some doing very little.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p181/myfordsfly/my cars/000_0264.jpg
 

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I'd take the low end torque, street manners, driveability, low buck performance and low maintance of an '87-'93 5.0L over the high strung, peeky power band of a worked turbo I-4 2.3L any day of the week.
 

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85_SS_302_Coupe said:
Stock for stock, not much comparison as the 5.0 will rape the 2.3 out of the hole. BUT, get yourself a manual boost controller and turn the boost up to about 17psi and it's a different story. My Merkur will slaughter a stock 5.0 once it gets moving. It's still a slug off the line but once it gets to about 3k RPM it snaps. On the highway it wouldn't even be a challenge....it'll go 65-100 almost instantly and i don't even have to downshift. All i've done to it is put a K+N on it, a small notebook sized Saab intercooler (most ghetto IC install ever) and set the boost at 17psi. It even has a 2 inch exhaust all the way back...i can't wait to get a 3'' exhaust and a ported head and intake.

Here's a really quick 2.3 Mustang without a ton of money dumped in it Home of Turbo 4 Cylinder Mustang
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ill see if I can find a pic of my exhaust on my svo, It was a 3" dp and thats all, you would not beilive the diff. it made..
 
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