Turbo Questions...

[Strype]

A) How much does a T-3 or a T-4 cost? What about the kits... Worth it?

B) Who are good companies? Is a junkyard turbo as good as a new turbo? How do you fix one up?

C) If I chose to do so, I am wanting to use one with my heads... They are 58cc Combustion Chamber GT40X aluminums- Possible?

D) Do I have to know how to weld to get this done?

 

[Mr. Rustypwnz]

no if you have about 5k get the hellion kit, or the hp kit, you will absolutely **** yourself with the amount of torque a turbo makes, it gets addicting very fast!!! if you want to build your own, get some b&g headers, your choice of turbo (t4, no t3 bs) you have to mount the ic, and fab the piping, get a blow through meter, injectors, make your oil lines, run your exhaust, get a better clutch, it will fry believe me, I fryed my frpp clutch in my svo and it was a 4 banger!! alot of trouble shooting......... and you should be set to go scare yourself!! If I was you I would put the intake and heads and cam on first, that will be a huge shock!!

 

[millhouse]

A) How much does a T-3 or a T-4 cost? What about the kits... Worth it?

That greatly depends on the turbo manufacturer, type, size etc. The typical master power turbo that work well for most guy's go for ~ $600 new. Unless you go with a junkyard unit, a quality turbo is not going to go for much less. As far as the kit's go, if you don't have the skills (or don't care to learn them) then the kit's are an excellent option. You can find them with the previously mentioned turbo for ~ 3k (not including maf, injectors or fuel pump). Keep in mind, that price typically includes a front mount air-air intercooler.

Also, it's only worth it if....in the words of the late great Ricky Bobby...you "Wanna Go Fast".

B) Who are good companies? Is a junkyard turbo as good as a new turbo? How do you fix one up?

I'd say B&G simply because I used their headers…but in all honesty, every loves them…they have excellent quality and great customer service. I've been hearing good things about quicktime lately too…but I can't comment much more than that on them.

Now if your asking about the actual turbo manufacturer, again…Master Power is as low as I'd go new. Garrett is pretty much the standard though, and quite often the best quality (many use them for OEM).

C) If I chose to do so, I am wanting to use one with my heads... They are 58cc Combustion Chamber GT40X aluminums- Possible?

Your compression ratio will probably be a bit high…but that just means it will take less boost for the power. Seriously though, your tune will have to be that much more spot on. Any idea what your cr is?

D) Do I have to know how to weld to get this done?

Only if you want to fab up the kit yourself. Even so, there is no time like the present to learn (that's how I did it).

 

[Trbofox]

If you can afford it in the long run I think you will save yourself alot of grief by using a kit. Be prepared to trash components, you will need a different clutch right away, my T5 lasted about 5K miles same with the rear end, also get drag radials right away. The feeling out of the turbo compared to a supercharger is just insane.
My HP kit uses a hybrid turbo and it spools fast.

 

[black87ttop]

not being ignorant, but whats so bad about this kit. I know its ebay and all, but his feedback rating for his headers and intercooler piping is all great. not one bad feedback on those items. As long as the pipe fits wouldnt it be a good deal? what else is wrong here
its 800 bux

 

[ryan218]

not being ignorant, but whats so bad about this kit. I know its ebay and all, but his feedback rating for his headers and intercooler piping is all great. not one bad feedback on those items. As long as the pipe fits wouldnt it be a good deal? what else is wrong here
its 800 bux

thats what im thinking...i mean so what if its a ****y plating who cares what it looks like...also long as it hauls...

 

[5spd GT]

Where is the best known turbo mustang site?

 

[Flavadave4]

not being ignorant, but whats so bad about this kit. I know its ebay and all, but his feedback rating for his headers and intercooler piping is all great. not one bad feedback on those items. As long as the pipe fits wouldnt it be a good deal? what else is wrong here
its 800 bux

The reason they have good feedback is because people leave feedback when they get the package and open the boxes and see everything is there and shiney and they have a hard-on looking at those turbos. Its not till they install the kit that they find out it doen't fit like they thought it would and are breaking there balls trying to make it fit. Then a year later the plating looks like **** and the headers that were made out of CHEAP material have warped or cracked or both.

Spend your money wisely......

I have ready nothing BUT good about B&G, and when I get ready to go turbo i'll be placing a call to them.
http://bgturbokits.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=27&products_id=43

 

[Strype]

Thanks guys... $5K is WAY too much money for me... I was hoping for cheaper. I'm just fealing it out because if I go thru the trouble to put the heads, cam and intake on I might as well throw a turbo on if it's simple enough. And I could give a **** about looks, but I don't want nothing cracking a year later!



Can I use stock pistons???

 

[88_GT_5_oh]

Where is the best known turbo mustang site?

www.turbomustangs.com lol

not being ignorant, but whats so bad about this kit. I know its ebay and all, but his feedback rating for his headers and intercooler piping is all great. not one bad feedback on those items. As long as the pipe fits wouldnt it be a good deal? what else is wrong here
its 800 bux

you get what you pay for. chances are nothing is gonna fit properly, ****ty turbos, small I/C, small piping. if you buy that you still gotta make 2 down pipes to hook up to the rest of your exhaust. do it right the first time, i bought a B&G hotside/downpipe, a T70 turbo, tial 38 mm wastegate all seperatly and made my own coldside piping. if you are decent with a welder and can figure how to route the piping its not really that hard to do. another thing i overlooked that i may as well mention is for anyone doing a turbo, spend the money and get some header wrap and wrap all your pipes, also a turbo blanket makes a HUGE difference for underhood heat, after driving for 20 mins i could put my hand on the turbo blanket still, granted i couldn't hold it there long but i could still touch it

 

[88nosmustang]

i went with an hp kit stage 1, on a 351, the torque is crazy the power is crazy the car is just a wicked lil beast, there is no traction anymore, just a burnout machine, i went into the thing not having a clue what was goin on with turbos, which is why i just put a kit in, instead of tryin to piece somethin together....haha i love it, the boost is addictive, i couldnt sleep after driving the car...

the only thing helpful to you in all of that is to go with a kit, unless u kno what your doing and can save yourself alot of money by piecing it together...

 

[88GTStreetRod]

Question:

the turbo kits that I have seen for sale do not show any additional fule pumps, fuel management, MSD boxes etc..... The kits say that they are comlplete and go for 5 and 6K. Do you not need the same accesories for a turbo as you do for a supercharger??

 

[Jaswir]

how loud is that BOV etc.. with those kits!?

 

[millhouse]

Question:

the turbo kits that I have seen for sale do not show any additional fule pumps, fuel management, MSD boxes etc..... The kits say that they are comlplete and go for 5 and 6K. Do you not need the same accesories for a turbo as you do for a supercharger??

The turbo kit's priced around $3k are complete with the exception of the following: Fuel pump, fuel injectors, MAF & a tune. The kit's that go for $5k plus typically include all of that, but the bulk of what your paying for is an off the shelf kit. That is, when you pay...they ship it.

If you consider that the $3k turbo kit's typically include a nice BOV and an inercooler...those alone put them ahead of superchager setups as far as completeness goes.

 

[92GreenGT]

After having a supercharger and turbo kit, buying a turbo kit for 5grand and then buying a supercharger kit and having to buy power pipes, pullies, headers, midpipes, injectors blah blah blah, they usually equal out in price.

Ive told countless people this, look for a used kit and go that route. I have $2300 in my Hellion kit, pretty good deal if you ask me.

Another kit to check out is Quicktime, I think they sell their kits brand new complete for $2900.

 

[Strype]

Sweet.

I don't have the monies as of yet, but I am considering it if the monies show up like I hope.

I'd kill for that first time pulling up to a turbo neon like I have before, except this time all he hears is flowmaster on top of a BOV

I need to quit spending money on this car though. I dunno.

 

[Trbofox]

After having a supercharger and turbo kit, buying a turbo kit for 5grand and then buying a supercharger kit and having to buy power pipes, pullies, headers, midpipes, injectors blah blah blah, they usually equal out in price.

Ive told countless people this, look for a used kit and go that route. I have $2300 in my Hellion kit, pretty good deal if you ask me.

Another kit to check out is Quicktime, I think they sell their kits brand new complete for $2900.

X2, when you start adding up what else you need to do the supercharger your @ the price of the turbo kit or more. I think if you look around you can find things, right now over on Steel City Stangs forums there is a guy with a brand new HP kit for a fox cost $4950 selling it for $3500 cause he needs to get rid of it, wish I had some extra bucks I'd take it.

 

[ninety15.0]

There are some excellent point here. I like to think of it this way. To get a supercharger capable of 10+ psi with an intercooler/aftercooler...you are looking at well over 3k. Then you still need injectors ($250-300), intank pump (125), inline pump ($100?), and a tune($500). Or you can tune it youself...which means tweecer (550), wideband (250), software (110)...it can get expensive very quickly.

And for the money the turbo is going to be much faster. If you look at the power numbers most people put down with single turbo kits...its INSANE. Even on a stock longblock they are making close to 400rwhp! Thats unheard of with a blower of any kind centri or twinscrew.

Just something to think about!

 

[Strype]

Whoa.


I'm running a stock bottom end, I wonder if I do this with a HCI swap will I blow the bottom end out the bottom end

 

[Turkey Sammich]

You can't buy a 360, but you can buy a turbo. Things are not adding up mang.