Turbosnake95's Dart 331 / T-76 Turbo build up!

[Turbosnake95-RA]

why did you start a new account?

Im at work and forgot what my normal accounts password was

Will

 

[mootang]

lol

 

[TurboSnake95]

Project update 12 June 2006:

2 Pics of Intercooler, piping is 3" in and 3" out, good to 1000+ HP

Cross over pipe in front of oil pan

Pic of Down pipe installed:

Pic of Elbow that Air filter will be attached to during daily driving, will come off when racing.

3 Pics of waste gate installed:

I will be going back tomarrow to get Pics of all the cold side piping, which will be on the car it was being welding up while I was there today.

Thanks for looking, hope you enjoy.

Will

 

[pleasehelp]

I must be in the wrong business. Looks awesome!! Thanks for the updates!

 

[Killercanary]

Are you not going to run a sway bar? Is your WG plumbed back into the exhaust somewhere or is it dumped to the atmosphere?

The intercooler looks great, but why does it seem that every turbo kit I see positions it up towards the bumper support more so than lowering it to place the cooling fins fully in the opening of the front fascia?

Lastly, is that the standard drag race oil pan? I'm going with that pan and I was worried about ground clearance but it appears that its no lower than the K member in your pics.

 

[TurboSnake95]

Are you not going to run a sway bar? Is your WG plumbed back into the exhaust somewhere or is it dumped to the atmosphere?

The intercooler looks great, but why does it seem that every turbo kit I see positions it up towards the bumper support more so than lowering it to place the cooling fins fully in the opening of the front fascia?

Lastly, is that the standard drag race oil pan? I'm going with that pan and I was worried about ground clearance but it appears that its no lower than the K member in your pics.

O I haven't ran a front sway bar in over 5 years, I was told by many a racer that by taking it off, when I luanch it helps distribute the weight to the back.

O The intercooler, even though you cannot see it, has alot of air space showing to the front. Beleive it or not but when your driving the rushing air, gets to all the fins of the cooler. You dont need a huge gaped ricer bumper installed to see the fins for it to work properly.

O I belive it is the standard pan, on my reciept it says: 7qt Canton rear sump Drag oil pan. and now it is flush wiith the K member.


Turbo Technology Inc. Has been making Turbo kits for mustangs since 1988. There isn't another Turbo company out that that can compete with that. The knowledge that George (the owner) has on building and running a turbo system is astounding. The kits are top notch, matter of fact on my street kit, I was like the 3rd owner of it when I got it.


Will

 

[DARK-5.0]

What intercooler is that? Procharger 3 core?

Jeremy

 

[TurboSnake95]

Nope, Turbo Technology Inc. custom makes all there intercoolers

 

[TurboSnake95]

UPDATE 13 JUNE 2006:

12" K&N Air filter installed in fender well:

Misc Turbo PIC #1:

Engine bay PIC:

Misc Turbo PIC #2

Shiney Blow Off valve:

Misc. 3" Cold side piping:

Turbo Kit is done being fabricated, now they are going to take it off and clean everything up, then re-install. After that there is just a few more item's to do on the car, then its Dyno and most important:

TRACK TIME

Killercanary the waste gate just has a small pipe connected to it that discharges to the atmosphere, You get better response this way.


Almost at the end of this Loooooooong Journey which has taken just a little over a year now almost time to enjoy the fruits of my (and others) labor

Will

 

[moneypit94]

I wanted to go with a 3 speed but everybody told me i would be taking it out again and again to have it fixed. I wonder if you will have that problem?

Also what rockers are those? I have a set of scorpions and they are going to cause clearance issues on one of the corners of my valve covers because there too wide at the ends.

You gave me some good ideas on how to mount my shifter now too. Also looks like your going to run a ketch can/breather setup, I debated on that forever to run that, just breathers, or a vacuum pump setup. I eventually just put in a double baffles for breathers on because its cheaper and cleaner looking, but i may have to do what your doing.

Any ideas were you going to mount the tranny cooler yet?

Where exactly did you run your fuel line in the rear by the tank, I have been thinking about this problem too. If i go by the tank im thinking it will be to close to the tail pipes.

I needed a post like this to help me get motivated again to start working on my setup. (been working on a fence for our great dane lately, looking at getting another now)

 

[TurboSnake95]

I wanted to go with a 3 speed but everybody told me i would be taking it out again and again to have it fixed. I wonder if you will have that problem?

Also what rockers are those? I have a set of scorpions and they are going to cause clearance issues on one of the corners of my valve covers because there too wide at the ends.

You gave me some good ideas on how to mount my shifter now too. Also looks like your going to run a ketch can/breather setup, I debated on that forever to run that, just breathers, or a vacuum pump setup. I eventually just put in a double baffles for breathers on because its cheaper and cleaner looking, but i may have to do what your doing.

Any ideas were you going to mount the tranny cooler yet?

Where exactly did you run your fuel line in the rear by the tank, I have been thinking about this problem too. If i go by the tank im thinking it will be to close to the tail pipes.

I needed a post like this to help me get motivated again to start working on my setup. (been working on a fence for our great dane lately, looking at getting another now)

- I know of lots of 3 speeds that are running in the single digits with no problem. Main factor is not going cheap on the internals

- The rockers I have are the Comp Cams Pro Magnum rockers made of 8650 Chromemoly steel.

- Been running the catch can for like 3 years, after I got tired of blowing oil everywhere. Once installed, I never had any problems again. Helps prevent blown seals also.

- Turbo Technology said they will be mounting it underneath the car, when they mount it, ill take some pics and post.

- I have been running this fuel system for about 2 1/2 years now, when it was installed, they just followed the stock fuel line, and zip tied everything. looks nice and works perfect.

Will

 

[moneypit94]

With a turbo car and your expected hp you should be ok with a 3 speed, you just might be pushing it a little. When i talked to PA, Art Carr, and TCI they all said i was wasting my time with a 3 speed and said that even with PA's lifetime warrenty that i would be probably be sending it in a lot. So i had PTC build me a powerglide and converter more suituable. $$$

What have you done to your rear end and what gears are you running?

 

[TurboSnake95]

With a turbo car and your expected hp you should be ok with a 3 speed, you just might be pushing it a little. When i talked to PA, Art Carr, and TCI they all said i was wasting my time with a 3 speed and said that even with PA's lifetime warrenty that i would be probably be sending it in a lot. So i had PTC build me a powerglide and converter more suituable. $$$

What have you done to your rear end and what gears are you running?

I agree with the Turbo part as there is less stress on the crank therefore letting it spin freely, and there is no clutch system. But as far as a 3 speed, keep in mind this car is 80% street and 20% track, a C-4 that is built right should be able to handle 1000 with no issues, it should also be properly maintained, have a good tranny cooler, and a good fluid in the case. But I agree that a Glide is very nice, but a Glide is for a race car IMO. When I decide that my car is going to be 80% Track and 20% Street, then I will be going to a Glide. When I ordered my Torque Converter from PTC I talked in length with them about my plans, and also my future plans, and they even said that my C-4 if built right should have no issues with say like 1000 HP. I guess it just comes down to how lucky I am with it Everyone says that stock 302 block crack after 500 rwhp, but yet we see more and more people going far above that with a stock block.

As far as what I am running out back, I have Strange Engineering 31 Spline stuff with a set of 3.27 gears. I was running 3.73 but was running out of rpm before the end of the track.

Since Im not one of those "My project is top secret" type of guy, here is a close to complete list on everything done to my car. Maybe it will help people as far as information, keep in mind every combo is different, so always take it with a grain of salt.

List of everything done:

Engine Specs:

1. Dart 302 8.2 deck block stroked to 331ci
2. AFR 185 aluminum heads (2.02/1.6) Port match to intake and stronger valve springs
3. Probe forged 1.175 pistons, 14.2cc dish (8.9:1 compression)
4. Scat 4340 5.400” H Beam forged rods
5. Scat 4340 3.25” forged crank
6. Custom grind Comp Cam for Turbocharged application
230/[email protected], 0.544/0.544, 114 LSA
7. ARP studs and bolts throughout
8. Clevite 77 bearings
9. Total seal classic race fittings
10. Cometic Head gaskets
11. Crank Balanced and Blue printed to 28oz
12. Trickflow R intake system w/ 1” phenolic spacer
13. 70mm BBK TB
14. 72lb fuel Injectors flow matched Delphi (low impedance)
15. 1.7 stud mounted Pro Magnum roller rockers
16. BBK under drive pulleys
17. 160* Thermostat
18. Hardened Comp Cam push rods
19. New Comp cam lifters
20. Power bond SFI certified race balancer @ 28oz
21. SFI aluminum flex plate @ 28oz
22. 7qt Canton rear sump Drag oil pan

This is the other supporting stuff currently installed

1. 1994/95 custom T-76 Q trim .96 AR Turbo TTI Race kit (Intercooled)
2. Aeromotive 1000 competition Fuel system (complete) - upgraded pump to the Eliminator Fuel Pump, P/N 11104:
3. F.A.S.T computer system with 3 bar boost MAP and closed loop wideband O2
4. Built C-4
5. PTC 9.5” Torque converter (custom)
6. MSD 6AL
7. MSD blaster coil
8. MSD 2 Step
9. 31 Spline Axles ?
10. 31 Spine Differential ?
11. 3.27 gears-being installed
12. Strange cromoly drive shaft-being installed
13. Maximum Motor sports Full length sub frame connectors
14. Maximum Motor sports 6 point roll bar w/ swing outs
15. 5 Point Racing harness X2
16. Corbeau Racing seats
17. Eibach Pro-Kit Springs
18. Aluminum Back Seat Delete (Custom made)
19. Drive shaft safety loop
20. RCI Transmission blanket
21. B&M Pro Ratchet shifter
22. B&M Super Cooler
23. Urethane Engine and Transmission mounts

Thanks for the intrest in this project, it keeps me motivated during the time the car is down

Will

 

[moneypit94]

My car is a like 80%+ street car, but im also building it in mind to compete in the true/wild street events.

Far as a powerglide being a drag only, well maybe but thats why i talked to ptc about my setup before they built it for me. With the way i geared it i should be at about 2500 rpms at 65 mph. And still be able to hit 160 mph.

My 427w twin pt-67 turbo setup should hit over 1000rwhp so thats why they didn't want me to go with a c4. Nice to see people on here with some meaner stuff. Seems like most people including myself get to a point they start drifting off to the other forums like TM and Hardcore.

 

[TurboSnake95]

My car is a like 80%+ street car, but im also building it in mind to compete in the true/wild street events.

Far as a powerglide being a drag only, well maybe but thats why i talked to ptc about my setup before they built it for me. With the way i geared it i should be at about 2500 rpms at 65 mph. And still be able to hit 160 mph.

My 427w twin pt-67 turbo setup should hit over 1000rwhp so thats why they didn't want me to go with a c4. Nice to see people on here with some meaner stuff. Seems like most people including myself get to a point they start drifting off to the other forums like TM and Hardcore.

Yah, If I was competing in the true/wild street events, I would be throwing a Glide in too Funny you say that about TM, I was just over there posting a WTB thread lol. "Waterpog" One of the head board moderators besides Trent, is a personal best friend of mine. But I like this SN 94-95 forum also, specially since its pertains to what I have.

Will

 

[Killercanary]

Will, I see you are looking to get a set of strange SS 31 spline axles. My recommendation is to NOT get them. I had a set, as did my dad in his '91GT and my buddy Mike had a set in his '01GT 'vert. After my first time at the track on them (4 passes) I bent them bad enough that my rear rotor was hitting the caliper bracket as it went around. Upon seeing that we checked my dad's and my buddy Mike checked his, all of ours were bent WAY more than was allowable by strange. My buddy Mike got his replaced, but since my dad and I told them we were racing they told us that these were street only axles and they were not warrentied. After that the three of us switched to running superior axles and none of us have had a problem since. Just figured I'd let you know.

 

[Pennywise2]

Wow...Congrats man!

 

[Gibbo97]

+1 on the superior axles - that's what I run

 

[TurboSnake95]

PM sent to you Killercanary

Will

 

[TurboSnake95]

Update: 28 July 2006


It's alive

Will