V10 in a restomod?

AC91GT · Oct 27, 2008

anyone ever looked into stuffing a new Triton V10 truck motor in a classic? I wonder if it will fit width wise. It may have to go into something other than a mustang. What does everyone think?

D.Hearne · Oct 27, 2008

You'll have to get rid of the shock towers due to the width, they're wider than a 460. I don't think the length would be an issue though. It'll be basically the same swap with a V8 mod motor except for the longer motor.

68EFIvert · Oct 27, 2008

Here is an interesting link to another forum.

Triton V10 info...anyone!

ron67fb · Oct 27, 2008

Here's one sporting the famous U-pipe exhaust:
Outlaws Rod & Custom- powered by SmugMug

rbohm · Oct 27, 2008

the V10 length wont be a problem as it falls between the 300 six, and the 200 six. you may have to move the radiator forward about 1/2" though for fan clearance. also push the engine as far back as you can go.

D.Hearne · Oct 27, 2008

I personally don't see the point in doing a V10 swap. The HP/TQ numbers are really anemic for the effort involved. 310HP/425TQ are bested by a stock 390 4 bbl motor of 66-70 vintage. And just as easily outdone doing a stroker Windsor or Cleveland swap. Maybe doing a 3V V10 would you see more for the effort, I haven't seen the power output figures for these.

65ShelbyClone · Oct 27, 2008

With that in mind, I guess you have to wonder why anyone would bother with a modular swap. A lot of work for really not a lot of payoff IMO.

However, I think a V10 would be cool in a bigger bodied car than a Mustang. Maybe a Torino or Galaxie......just too bad that the V10s have such a weird exhaust note.

Hack · Oct 28, 2008

D.Hearne said:
I personally don't see the point in doing a V10 swap. The HP/TQ numbers are really anemic for the effort involved. 310HP/425TQ are bested by a stock 390 4 bbl motor of 66-70 vintage. And just as easily outdone doing a stroker Windsor or Cleveland swap. Maybe doing a 3V V10 would you see more for the effort, I haven't seen the power output figures for these.

The HP numbers from the 60s are exaggerated and the newer HP numbers are with full accessories, catalytic converters and exhaust. Government regs on HP figures have really clamped down in the last 30 years. The V10 (especially the 3V) will make more power and have better fuel economy than a 390 - especially if EFI is retained. However, I don't see why you'd want to do this to a car either, because the engine is a little heavy. Now in a 60s Ford pickup, that would be really cool!

I'd like to put one of these in my '65, but I decided on an EFI 351W instead. The V10s are spendy and the earlier heads have somewhat fragile spark plug threads, I believe.

D.Hearne · Oct 28, 2008

That 's probably true about the output, but the numbers I've seen on the fuel economy isn't any different than a 390. 10-15 mpg in a full size truck. That's what my 70 F100 got with the GT390 from my 67 Stang swapped into it backed by a C-6 and 3.50 rear.

AC91GT · Oct 28, 2008

definitely was thinking of a torino or galaxie 500 for this project. The coolness factor, EFI and truck type torque are what got me thinking. Of course fuel economy with a modern overdrive auto. THEN we slap a twin turbo on that sucker and fry the tires . . .

jamison42166 · Oct 28, 2008

why not stuff in a dodge viper V-10 that would piss off the ford purist

gonzothegreat · Oct 28, 2008

golf4283 · Oct 28, 2008

I think the V10 would be awesome in a classic stang. I love the exhaust note. Nice and smooth with those extra 2 cylinders. I can see the point of building a v8 to match power as well but the V10 just has that WOW factor you get along with the customization. I say go for it and post some sound clips when it's done cuase it will sound great.

SadbutTrue · Oct 28, 2008

65ShelbyClone said:
With that in mind, I guess you have to wonder why anyone would bother with a modular swap. A lot of work for really not a lot of payoff IMO.

However, I think a V10 would be cool in a bigger bodied car than a Mustang. Maybe a Torino or Galaxie......just too bad that the V10s have such a weird exhaust note.

Doesn't make sense for 4.6L 2V or even 3V swaps, but when you're talking about 4V motors built for boost it starts to make sense.

A 4.6L 4V with the basics and a Kenne Bell can make 800 hp and still be (relatively) easy to drive on the street. Hard to do that with the vintage engines.

A single V10 swap would be cool for novelty, but no, it doesn't make sense otherwise

jamison42166 · Oct 28, 2008

gonzothegreat said:

I would hate to change spark plugs on that LOL

RedGTvert · Oct 28, 2008

SadbutTrue said:
Doesn't make sense for 4.6L 2V or even 3V swaps, but when you're talking about 4V motors built for boost it starts to make sense.

A 4.6L 4V with the basics and a Kenne Bell can make 800 hp and still be (relatively) easy to drive on the street. Hard to do that with the vintage engines.

I wouldn't be so quick to downplay the 3V, considering that is the platform being used on all the 700hp Saleen cars and better yet, it is an aluminum block unlike the newer 4V engine which is Iron.

tx65coupe · Oct 29, 2008

I think it is a cool idea. Its not my thing though. I do think that the V10 truck engine sounds weak. Even the Dodge trucks with the V10 sound weak. The Viper sounds better. However, nothing sounds like a V8 except for a V8. Thats my 2 cents.

StangDreamin' · Oct 29, 2008

jamison42166 said:
I would hate to change spark plugs on that LOL

Not as bad as you think. In the "close-up", look between the valvecovers and the fuel rail for the injectors; the little black cylinders with yellow lettering on them are the "coil-on-plug" (COP) modules. Each one is a little ignition coil; triggered by the computer; and like the name says, they're sitting right on top of the spark plugs in place of plug-wire boots. You've gotta pull the fuel rails to get a straight-on shot with a plug socket; but at least they're not down with the exhaust manifolds!

Personally it looks like it's a lot easier to get all ten plugs from under an early Mustang hood than it is trying to get to "the back plugs" on the 5.4 V8 under an '02 F150 hood!
(Actually "the back plugs" look more like they're under the cowl than under the hood of an '02 F150)

AC91GT · Oct 29, 2008

thanks for the posts. I think all points have merit. I do not care what it sounds like as much as the performance especially of I add turbos. Definitely will use a 3V motor and if it is aluminum??? so much the better. Now I need to find a car and then a motor and then a trans and then a whole bunch of money. Anyone know where I can find a Talladega torino for this project?

mustangbrad · Oct 29, 2008

A Torino is one thing, but please don't do something like this to a Talladega.

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