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A5literMan

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Is it puddling anywhere? Check the front by the water pump/timing cover. Mine was leaking slightly at the timing cover gasket.
 

smkshw

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A5literMan said:
Is it puddling anywhere? Check the front by the water pump/timing cover. Mine was leaking slightly at the timing cover gasket.
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no,what ever it is its all internal
 

mikestang63

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so you are losing water it is not leaking external, and your radiator is bubbling?

You can rent a coolant pressure tester for free. Is there any water coming out the tailpipe or is it all going into the pan. You sure it isnt going down the back of the bellhousing.

Did you check the intake mating surface to make sure it wasn't warped. Only other thing it could be are a cracked head, block, or HG .
 

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smkshw said:
really?....how did you find out?
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I had a whole series of events happen that made me suspect it (root cause a heater hose that blew up at the track, and limping it about 5-10 miles to get to parts store to get a new one ), and confirmed it almost as soon as i pulled the cover. Also lost coolant really fast, but no rad pressure and the motor ran fine.
 

smkshw

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mikestang63 said:
so you are losing water it is not leaking external, and your radiator is bubbling?

You can rent a coolant pressure tester for free. Is there any water coming out the tailpipe or is it all going into the pan. You sure it isnt going down the back of the bellhousing.

Did you check the intake mating surface to make sure it wasn't warped. Only other thing it could be are a cracked head, block, or HG .
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no external leak,every head gasket i seen had white smoke and rad bubbling like crazy,mine just disapears?.....i saw a bubble or 2 from overflow,its a aftermarket small crome one and i can see right into it,you would think it would fill as it warms up but each time it bubbled it got less and less from the overflow tube,then when it cooles down the rad needs more coolant??....but rad pressure dosnt blow out or anything?????.....ahhhhhh!....lol
 

mikestang63

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smkshw said:
no external leak,every head gasket i seen had white smoke and rad bubbling like crazy,mine just disapears?.....i saw a bubble or 2 from overflow,its a aftermarket small crome one and i can see right into it,you would think it would fill as it warms up but each time it bubbled it got less and less from the overflow tube,then when it cooles down the rad needs more coolant??....but rad pressure dosnt blow out or anything?????.....ahhhhhh!....lol
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dont look in the overflow.. take the cap off and look in the radiator
 

smkshw

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mikestang63 said:
dont look in the overflow.. take the cap off and look in the radiator
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ya i looked there first....idled it a few times for quite a while,no visable bubbles looking through rad cap,just the same kinda bubbles or 2 with the spill free funnel?...but its as if its leaking into block only not pressure coming out?....if you know what i mean?...thats about all i can tell?

could the head gasket blow internaly between or around the pistons and not loose compression maybe?
 

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guess i can try a rad pressure tester see it that does anything
 

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but it will because water is mixing with oil?....im sure pulling heads is only option!
 

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my bet its cracked block between the jackets!....anyone else?...lol....tare down 2 starts tomorrow!
 
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mikestang63

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smkshw said:
my bet its cracked block between the jackets!....anyone else?...lol....tare down 2 starts tomorrow!
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pull the intake and inspect the galley, oil galley plug and shine a flashlight by the front where the timing chain is,
 

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mikestang63 said:
pull the intake and inspect the galley, oil galley plug and shine a flashlight by the front where the timing chain is,
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ok,will do that first thanks
 

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Is it overheating by chance when you drive it? Were you having any cooling problems before all this started?
 

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Is it overheating by chance when you drive it? Were you having any cooling problems before all this started?
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it never over heated before,but it ran as hot as 210 in the heat?.....it does run hoter than i like,runs 180-195 when its not blazing out,but in the heat 190-200ish?....,when im in traffic on a real hot day is when i get the 210ish?...i have all the cooling upgrades also,tuner says my car was running hot at 180!?....so if you think thats hot than yes?
 

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Well then it's possible you don't have a true surface that isn't sealing properly but like the other guys have mentioned too it could be a crack in heads or block. A leak inside the timing cover would be awesome to find at this point. The lower half of where timing cover goes around the water jacket could be leaking down into your old pan and you won't see it until you take the pump and cover off. Worth a look.
 
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smkshw

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stang89bidges said:
Well then it's possible you don't have a true surface that isn't sealing properly but like the other guys have mentioned too it could be a crack in heads or block. A leak inside the timing cover would be awesome to find at this point. The lower half of where timing cover goes around the water jacket could be leaking down into your old pan and you won't see it until you take the pump and cover off. Worth a look.
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i ran a straight edge on the heads and intake it seemed good,i have the intake off again as we speek(working on it in between paint jobs).....im gona take the heads off first,i want to put a thicker gasket in anyway,i dont care what it is at this point,i just dont want a cracked block!....so im hoping i find a leaking head gasket in between the oil and water jackets!....not a crack!!
 

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any of you guys take heads off with supercharger still in place?
 

TOOLOW91

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smkshw said:
any of you guys take heads off with supercharger still in place?
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You need to remove the bracket from the head . Its just much easier


Sent from my iPhone using my fingers while my auto correct makes me seem illiterate
 

smkshw

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TOOLOW91 said:
You need to remove the bracket from the head . Its just much easier


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was hoping i can take the couple bolts that go to the head and sc stayes put maybe....ill found out digging into it now
 

smkshw

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well,took the driver side off and everything looks fine with visual inspection anyway....i dont see any crackes and head gasket looks fine to me?
 
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