• Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-

V3 no longer virgin

  • Thread starter Thread starter JD1964
  • Start date Start date Aug 9, 2018
Prev
  • 1
  • 2
First Prev 2 of 2

a91what

SendMeUrDataLog
10 Year Member
Apr 6, 2011
10,739
6,720
214
Hillsborough county
Aug 27, 2018
#21
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #21
The issue is the pump flows less and less as pressure rises. Most GM applications start at 50psi so as long as the pump can keep up you should be ok.
 

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Aug 27, 2018
#22
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #22
Another thought. I’m not sure if my Kirban adjustable regulator is a boost reference one. If it’s not, then 54psi is the max the pump would have to put up with, unless I’m misunderstanding something else.

I’m not running an fmu. Everything other than my tinkering with pressure is in the chip tune.
 

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Aug 27, 2018
#23
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #23
Here's my pump. According to the info here, it's made to handle what I'm doing with it.

http://walbrofuelpumps.com/255lph-walbro-gss340-intank-fuel-pump.html
 

a91what

SendMeUrDataLog
10 Year Member
Apr 6, 2011
10,739
6,720
214
Hillsborough county
Aug 27, 2018
#24
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #24
Same pump I have, you should be ok. IMO a tune and bigger injectors should be priority.
 

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Aug 27, 2018
#25
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #25
a91what said:
Same pump I have, you should be ok. IMO a tune and bigger injectors should be priority.
Click to expand...

I admit I'm cheating, and getting away with it so far. Gonna do dyno pulls hopefully this September.
 

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Aug 31, 2018
#26
  • Aug 31, 2018
  • #26
Dyno pulls scheduled for Friday Sept 7at 9am. Considering I can fine tune my mixture on the spot, what is the best AFR for max power? Consider 10psi. I don't mind getting on the edge for the dyno pulls. Is 12 a good target? 12.5 maybe? I'll richen it back up for street driving. This is my first time doing dyno pulls. Anything I need to do for preparation? I'm paying $125 for three pulls.
 
Reactions: jchav02

a91what

SendMeUrDataLog
10 Year Member
Apr 6, 2011
10,739
6,720
214
Hillsborough county
Aug 31, 2018
#27
  • Aug 31, 2018
  • #27
11.5AFR

You wont see any appreciable gain by leaning it out.
How are you dealing with timing? What total are you running now?
93octane
24* max without meth
 

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Aug 31, 2018
#28
  • Aug 31, 2018
  • #28
I’m running 10 degree base timing. I have no idea what the total is. It’s whatever All Out programmed into the chip.

I’m probably at 9:1 compression. I made effort to keep it down. I’ve never experienced detonation with this setup so far
 

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Aug 31, 2018
#29
  • Aug 31, 2018
  • #29
I can get Cam2 race gas nearby. Should I put a couple a 3 in to spike the gas?
 

a91what

SendMeUrDataLog
10 Year Member
Apr 6, 2011
10,739
6,720
214
Hillsborough county
Sep 1, 2018
#30
  • Sep 1, 2018
  • #30
Yes.
Do initial pull at your current timing.

Then bump it 2*
Look at the difference in HP on the curve of it is not significant DO NOT ADD MORE.

Without knowing total timing I can give no further useful advice for keeping it safe.
 
Reactions: JD1964

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Sep 2, 2018
#31
  • Sep 2, 2018
  • #31
I did some timing and AFR adjustments tonight. I now know what detonation sounds like. Coulda swore I heard the sound of a hammer hitting the block! Not just a tap either, a good knock from a big hammer. Yikes!!!!

Initially I though my base timing was at 10. But when I checked it was actually at 8. So I bumped it to 10. I also leaned up 3/4 turn and it spiked at 12.3 AFR. at those settings, BANG!!! Pulled over and richened up 1/2 turn on the regulator. 11.5ish now and no detonation. I think I've got it right in the sweet spot now. No way in hell am I going to 12 base timing. Might even drop back to 8 after dyno pulls.

Feels really strong. 4th gear from a 60mph roll to the redline is pretty fun. Need alot of room in front because 70mph traffic comes up really quick. Im doing about 115mph at redline 4th gear.
 

a91what

SendMeUrDataLog
10 Year Member
Apr 6, 2011
10,739
6,720
214
Hillsborough county
Sep 2, 2018
#32
  • Sep 2, 2018
  • #32
I remember someone tellin ya to keep the AFR around 11.5.....

Be glad you lifted, usually you dont get a second chance the engine usually just comes apart on ya.
 

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Sep 2, 2018
#33
  • Sep 2, 2018
  • #33
a91what said:
I remember someone tellin ya to keep the AFR around 11.5.....

Be glad you lifted, usually you dont get a second chance the engine usually just comes apart on ya.
Click to expand...

Werd.

Luckily the engine is a fresh balanced build. And it only knocked once, right at redline. So i was in the process of letting off anyway. Call it luck I suppose.
 
Reactions: General karthief

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Sep 6, 2018
#34
  • Sep 6, 2018
  • #34
All set for dyno tomorrow morning. I’m not gonna make adjustments while there. I’m at 9 degrees initial timing and running 11.1-11.6 in the ARR flat out.

Interesting thing though. I noticed my idle AFR recently go lean. Like 16-17. Then I noticed an exhaust leak at the x pipe clamp. Fixed the leak with a new heavy duty clamp and immediately the idle AFR is back to 14.5ish.
 

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Sep 7, 2018
#35
  • Sep 7, 2018
  • #35
400.18 hp
402.5 tq
5640 rpm

I’ll post vid and chart later
 
Reactions: stanglx2002, RaggedGT, General karthief and 2 others

a91what

SendMeUrDataLog
10 Year Member
Apr 6, 2011
10,739
6,720
214
Hillsborough county
Sep 7, 2018
#36
  • Sep 7, 2018
  • #36
Sweet!
 
Reactions: JD1964

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Sep 7, 2018
#37
  • Sep 7, 2018
  • #37
Chart

 
Reactions: All Stock93

a91what

SendMeUrDataLog
10 Year Member
Apr 6, 2011
10,739
6,720
214
Hillsborough county
Sep 7, 2018
#38
  • Sep 7, 2018
  • #38
starts to lean at 5700... I would shift at 5500

That curve looks really strong, must pull like a train
 

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Sep 7, 2018
#39
  • Sep 7, 2018
  • #39
a91what said:
starts to lean at 5700... I would shift at 5500

That curve looks really strong, must pull like a train
Click to expand...

My shift light is currently st at 5800. I'll Change it to 5500. 5600 is about max power anyway on this setup.
 

JD1964

there is enough sticking out to grab on to
15 Year Member
Jun 28, 2013
3,432
1,524
194
Maryland
Sep 7, 2018
#40
  • Sep 7, 2018
  • #40
View: https://youtu.be/3pmiYsxjeQU
 
Reactions: RaggedGT and All Stock93
Prev
  • 1
  • 2
First Prev 2 of 2
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

I
  • Locked
Expired Saleen Series Iv Supercharger Kit W/ Custom Sheetmetal Intake.
  • ItsStock02
  • Oct 2, 2012
  • Engine and Power Adder Parts
Replies
2
Views
6K
Engine and Power Adder Parts Dec 30, 2012
ncalk22
J
  • Locked
99-04 Vortech S-Trim Kit W/ Injectors, MAF, Extras
  • justinschmidt1
  • Apr 29, 2011
  • Engine and Power Adder Parts
Replies
12
Views
3K
Engine and Power Adder Parts Jun 25, 2011
IICrazy
M90 root blower how to info
  • 1987LXragtop
  • Jan 7, 2011
  • SN95 V6 Mustang Tech
Replies
1
Views
8K
SN95 V6 Mustang Tech Jan 7, 2011
1987LXragtop
New TVS blower pulley from Carmen Goudey
  • DiMora
  • Oct 3, 2009
  • 2005 - 2009 Specific Tech
Replies
5
Views
5K
2005 - 2009 Specific Tech Jan 25, 2010
NastyStang113
  • Locked
03/04 Cobra Part out Black & Torch Red
  • 2003snake
  • Feb 27, 2010
  • Interior Exterior Parts
  • 8 9 10
Replies
196
Views
42K
Interior Exterior Parts Feb 21, 2012
prudy
P
Share:
Bluesky Email Share Link
  • Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Forums
  • What's new
  • Media
  • Resources
  • Contact
  • Sponsor
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?