waterpump leak
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Yea, water pumps leak from the front seal. They have a drain hole to allow the water to leak out if/when the front shaft seal starts to go.
As for water pumps, IMHO, I say get new, but the more important issue is the gaskets and the bolts used.
IMHO, ***** the cr*p gaskets that come with the pump, get REAL gaskets - Felpro! And, IMHO, now is a good time to upgrade to SS bolts. But, Totally Stainless often takes weeks to ship. Still, IMHO, well worth it!
Here are the bolts that Totally Stainless ( Totally Stainless ) has:
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/tmp/TotallyStainlessWaterPumpBolts.jpg
As I remember, I got the "Engine Kit 5.0L EFI SBF" (6-0897) (~$45), and the the "Stud Bolt Kit for 302 SBF EFI Water Pump" (6-9029)(~$30). Plus, ~$10 for shipping and handling.
Check and verify those numbers and prices before ordering!
Also, it took ~5 weeks before I received them.
So, if you need something now, I'd suggest asking before you order!
I took care in taking that picture.
All of the the packages are labeled. You can see what bolts are in each package, and what the package part number is. Something that I wish that Totally Stainless would do for their catalog, or web site.
It all depends on what bolts you want. If you want just the water pump bolts, it seems like kits 6-9029 and 6-0592 are all you need. Check their catalog, or call, for prices on those kits.
As for water pumps, IMHO, I say get new, but the more important issue is the gaskets and the bolts used.
IMHO, ***** the cr*p gaskets that come with the pump, get REAL gaskets - Felpro! And, IMHO, now is a good time to upgrade to SS bolts. But, Totally Stainless often takes weeks to ship. Still, IMHO, well worth it!
Here are the bolts that Totally Stainless ( Totally Stainless ) has:
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/tmp/TotallyStainlessWaterPumpBolts.jpg
As I remember, I got the "Engine Kit 5.0L EFI SBF" (6-0897) (~$45), and the the "Stud Bolt Kit for 302 SBF EFI Water Pump" (6-9029)(~$30). Plus, ~$10 for shipping and handling.
Check and verify those numbers and prices before ordering!
Also, it took ~5 weeks before I received them.
So, if you need something now, I'd suggest asking before you order!
I took care in taking that picture.
All of the the packages are labeled. You can see what bolts are in each package, and what the package part number is. Something that I wish that Totally Stainless would do for their catalog, or web site.
It all depends on what bolts you want. If you want just the water pump bolts, it seems like kits 6-9029 and 6-0592 are all you need. Check their catalog, or call, for prices on those kits.
http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-for...water-pump-stud-bolt-kit-exclusively-lrs.html
Kind of pricy but if you break one these are exact reproductions.
Kind of pricy but if you break one these are exact reproductions.
Some hints to speed up cahnging the water pump...
Take a cardboard box, & turn it upside down. Count the number of bolts that hold the water pump on, don’t forget to count the 4 funny looking studs too. Poke a hole in the box for each bolt/stud. Arrange the holes in a circular formation, and mark the box at the 12:00 point. When you remove a water pump bolt, put it in one of the holes in the box according to where it came out of the water pump. When you are done, all bolts will be arranged it the exact same order and position that you removed them from the water pump. That makes re-installing them easy, no wondering where does this bolt go.
A long shank tap should be used to chase the dirt & corrosion out of the original threads before you reassemble everything. Cleaning the threads will help prevent the bolts from seizing next time (yes, there will be a next time).
A word about the links, if they don’t work, do a search on the part number (P/N). MSC updates their catalog regularly, and the pages may change, but the part numbers don’t. You will need the Adobe Acrobat viewer which is also a free download – Adobe - Adobe Reader download - All versions
Long shank 5/16” taps
Browse the MSC Big Book 5/16” pulley tap, 6” shank P/N 04801189 price $18.91
OR second choice, will not clean all the bottom threads unless you grind the end of the tap.
Browse the MSC Big Book extension tap, 6” reduced diameter shank P/N 04701181 $21.37
Use lots of antiseize on the bolts to protect them from corrosion and make them easier to remove next time.
See Totally Stainless for replacement stainless steel bolts. Last time I checked, they didn't have the studs. Nice folks, very into cars of all types. They have all kinds of stainless fasteners for almost every car. The prices are very reasonable, less the $10 for the water pump kit without the studs.
The studs are a Motormite item available at your local Advance Discount auto Parts store.
Motormite Water Pump Stud Kits for Ford, Lincoln and Mercury cars and trucks w/3.8L, 4.6L, 5.0L, 5.8L.
Part Number: 23744
Take a cardboard box, & turn it upside down. Count the number of bolts that hold the water pump on, don’t forget to count the 4 funny looking studs too. Poke a hole in the box for each bolt/stud. Arrange the holes in a circular formation, and mark the box at the 12:00 point. When you remove a water pump bolt, put it in one of the holes in the box according to where it came out of the water pump. When you are done, all bolts will be arranged it the exact same order and position that you removed them from the water pump. That makes re-installing them easy, no wondering where does this bolt go.
A long shank tap should be used to chase the dirt & corrosion out of the original threads before you reassemble everything. Cleaning the threads will help prevent the bolts from seizing next time (yes, there will be a next time).
A word about the links, if they don’t work, do a search on the part number (P/N). MSC updates their catalog regularly, and the pages may change, but the part numbers don’t. You will need the Adobe Acrobat viewer which is also a free download – Adobe - Adobe Reader download - All versions
Long shank 5/16” taps
Browse the MSC Big Book 5/16” pulley tap, 6” shank P/N 04801189 price $18.91
OR second choice, will not clean all the bottom threads unless you grind the end of the tap.
Browse the MSC Big Book extension tap, 6” reduced diameter shank P/N 04701181 $21.37
Use lots of antiseize on the bolts to protect them from corrosion and make them easier to remove next time.
See Totally Stainless for replacement stainless steel bolts. Last time I checked, they didn't have the studs. Nice folks, very into cars of all types. They have all kinds of stainless fasteners for almost every car. The prices are very reasonable, less the $10 for the water pump kit without the studs.
The studs are a Motormite item available at your local Advance Discount auto Parts store.
Motormite Water Pump Stud Kits for Ford, Lincoln and Mercury cars and trucks w/3.8L, 4.6L, 5.0L, 5.8L.
Part Number: 23744
The Edelbrock high flow water pumps are nice. If you buy a new "Ford" unit it won't be made by Ford directly, Mexico. I bought a new one at Auto Zone with a lifetime warranty for $40.
I traced the new water pump shape on a piece of cardboard. As I took the stock bolts off I pressed the bolts into the cardboard. This way I knew where they went. Each bolt is a different size.
I traced the new water pump shape on a piece of cardboard. As I took the stock bolts off I pressed the bolts into the cardboard. This way I knew where they went. Each bolt is a different size.
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stang&2Birds
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Yea, there are a few sizes and types.
Specifically, there are 4 different sizes/types for the 7 bolts/studs. :-O
I found it easier to look at a picture that someone posted, verify that it was correct, and use that.
I find the picture I took easier to see the differences and locations:
Installed:
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