Western Motorsports CAI

[The Solski]

I'm sure the CAI has to help some, given the fact that the factory airbox is so restrictive. But I'd say that the 91 octane tune provided the bulk of the power gains. I'd like to see dyno numbers with JUST the CAI and and no other mods or tune.

http://mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/m5lp_0601w_cold_air_intake/

read the article

In the article it states that they did a couple base line pulls

1st pull........... with the stock airbox less the HC trap with "NO TUNE" and the #'s were 261rwhp & 281 rwtq.

2nd pull.......... stock airbox, no HC trap + 91 octane tune and the #'s were 271rwhp & 289rwtq.

So it is safe to say the 91 octane tune on a stock setup is good for 10rwhp & 8 rwtq.

They tested the AFM (Anderson Ford Motorsports) CAI and it yeilded 16 rwhp with NO additional tunning (meaning this pull was compared to the 2nd pull as stated above)..........Proof that this particular intake is good for more than just a couple of hp's.

This quote from the article sum's up K&N's performance #'s over stock
"K&N promises 15.26 rwhp at 6,000 rpm, and our testing showed an 18-rwhp and 15-rwtq gain over our "no-tune" base numbers (1st pull), which is outstanding power for a kit on a naturally aspirated Mustang. With the MD Motorsports tune in place, the car picked up an additional 3 rwhp and 3 rwtq, showing this system has just about maxed out the capability of the motor to ingest air through this size inlet tubing"

And these are only two of the many intakes that were tested.

Fact of the matter is a good tune is good for about 10, maybe 15 hp.
An Intake which requires no tune is good for about the same.
And together gains are seen anywhere from 20-30 hp depending on the particular combo (tuner/CAI) that you get.

Believe what you will, but you're mistaken if you think the CAI's don't add any power over the stock airbox.

 

[TGJ]

There are two things about the WMS intake that bugged me... First that their product did not include an extended wiring harness for the MAF sensor, instead requiring wires to be cut and spliced. Second is the fear that with the loosely fitting hoods on some 05's that a good driving rain storm would fill up that Ram air box with water and provide a path for water to get into the engine.

I agree with the wiring, they could have done something better.

I disagree with the rain storm sucking in water. That is a non issue. Take a look at the MN12 TBirds and the CAI available to them. A CAI for the TBird places the air filter directly in front of the front tire with the filter exposed directly by the vents in the front bumper. Looking into the vents of the TBird will clearly show the air filter.

The problem with the TBirds CAI is that driven through a large enough puddle, it will draw water into the motor. However rain is a non issue. Even with a loose fitting 05 Mustang Hood, the filter is not even near the exposure to rain as a TBird with a CAI and it is a non issue with them.

 

[05STG1]

Wiring is not an issue, really. It would be nice to have a plug in extension, but no biggie.Easy task to do...IMO.

As for water guys, Ive tested it at over 100 mph for ~4-5 miles, in a down pour..(I dont condone that) no issues with water injestion what so ever. Ive collected bugs on the tray, even a mist in the rain. Filter never gets wet.

Besides..I was the ginny pig for the Outerwears Water repellant Pre-filter pictured above, to prevent that issue. They come in colors now..lol

As for the hood shaking @ over 100 mph, yank the rear hood molding at the base of the hood to relieve some heat and pressure, and with a sealed off WMS tray as above, shaking it down to a minimum.

These cars need a good aftermarket heat extractor hood.

All that testing in 5.0 are within a couple HP from one another...which one would u want to run in hot weather? hmm...

Merry Christmas to all

 

[bigcat]

As for water guys, Ive tested it at over 100 mph for ~4-5 miles, in a down pour..(I dont condone that) no issues with water injestion what so ever. Ive collected bugs on the tray, even a mist in the rain. Filter never gets wet.

YOU WHAT? 100 MPH for 4-5 miles? WTF? thats worse than street racing. you never know what can happen in the rain at those speeds. i cant believe you said you did that. glad you are still alive though.

 

[05STG1]

True, I had faith in my Roush . It was on a interstate late at night...highway was all mine at that time Over at the forum posted above, the curiosity was killing everyone, so...it had to be tested

S-

 

[ShowYa06]

I love my WMS, where can I get a wrap at 05STG1

 

[red05bullitgt]

http://mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/m5lp_0601w_cold_air_intake/

read the article

In the article it states that they did a couple base line pulls

1st pull........... with the stock airbox less the HC trap with "NO TUNE" and the #'s were 261rwhp & 281 rwtq.

2nd pull.......... stock airbox, no HC trap + 91 octane tune and the #'s were 271rwhp & 289rwtq.

So it is safe to say the 91 octane tune on a stock setup is good for 10rwhp & 8 rwtq.

They tested the AFM (Anderson Ford Motorsports) CAI and it yeilded 16 rwhp with NO additional tunning (meaning this pull was compared to the 2nd pull as stated above)..........Proof that this particular intake is good for more than just a couple of hp's.

This quote from the article sum's up K&N's performance #'s over stock
"K&N promises 15.26 rwhp at 6,000 rpm, and our testing showed an 18-rwhp and 15-rwtq gain over our "no-tune" base numbers (1st pull), which is outstanding power for a kit on a naturally aspirated Mustang. With the MD Motorsports tune in place, the car picked up an additional 3 rwhp and 3 rwtq, showing this system has just about maxed out the capability of the motor to ingest air through this size inlet tubing"

And these are only two of the many intakes that were tested.

Fact of the matter is a good tune is good for about 10, maybe 15 hp.
An Intake which requires no tune is good for about the same.
And together gains are seen anywhere from 20-30 hp depending on the particular combo (tuner/CAI) that you get.

Believe what you will, but you're mistaken if you think the CAI's don't add any power over the stock airbox.

That may be true, about the Anderson Ford Motorsport CAI, However do you know what your going to pay for it ?? check out his website, would you pay $569.00 for just a cold air intake ? that may provide, 18 additional HP ? and don't forget, those numbers were with a baseline tune, not stock.. Therefore, you may only see an additional 15 HP with a stock tune, or maybe 12 HP, if your running 87 octane..Hell, if your going to spend close to $600.00 you might as well spend it on a JLT/SCT tuner combo, that will at least provide an additional 25+ HP gain..

 

[cowtown]

I'd probably agree, that is partly why I went with the C&L/Diablo combo instead of the WMS one. I would have saved maybe $100-150 on the purchase price, but I'd still be without tuner and make 5 or so less HP. Though it is a cool looking kit. Secondary for me was having to cut the MAF wiring harness.

 

[red05bullitgt]

That's my main reason, for not choosing the WMS kit..There's no way in hell, that I'm about to cut any wires, on a brand new car..Besides, that would be the last thing I'd ever want the dealership to notice.. Anyway, if I wanted to pick a cold air system, that didn't require a reflash of the PCM..I would have just went ahead and purchased the Granatelli Cold Air Kit, which includes a recalibrated MAF sensor, which he claims is calibrated to his intake tube, that I believe is 90mm. But that's another topic altogether..