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AeroCoupe

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from6to8 said:
even for what I'll be doing with the car lol as in passing on the Sve?
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If you want to spend the same time, effort, and money to weld them in then go for it. I would rather spend the $40 or so more dollars and know I have the better units.
 
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If you want to spend the same time, effort, and money to weld them in then go for it. I would rather spend the $40 or so more dollars and know I have the better units.
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Yep
 

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I was gonna say, the main expense is the installation (unless you can weld yourself). The actual subframes themselves are the cheap part.
 

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AeroCoupe said:
If you want to spend the same time, effort, and money to weld them in then go for it. I would rather spend the $40 or so more dollars and know I have the better units.
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I thought they all needed to be welded in even bolting up to the seats; welded on the ends? Send me an example of what you are talking about if they are just bolt ups and no welding needed.
 

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I was gonna say, the main expense is the installation (unless you can weld yourself). The actual subframes themselves are the cheap part.
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yes that's why i just commented to Aero that I thought they all needed to be welded on the ends
 

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from6to8 said:
yes that's why i just commented to Aero that I thought they all needed to be welded on the ends
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There are bolt-ons made and available, but it's highly recommended to have them welded.
 

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There are bolt-ons made and available, but it's highly recommended to have them welded.
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Tits on a boar!


Sorry. That just came out when I read something about bolt-in subframe connectors.


Please continue.
 
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Bolt in units will eventually work loose due to the nature of how they install. They use clamping force to keep them where they are supposed to be and pretty much no matter what you do the stock subframe will deform and allow the bolts to work loose. The harder you are on the car the quicker it can happen.

I was referring to having to weld them in. This is the only way I would ever put a set in. I don’t know where you got “welding the ends”. The rest of my comment was basically you do you now that the information has been provided to you. Something is better than nothing but it’s curious how all the recognized Mustang suppliers of the rectangular units all run 0.083” wall thickness. SVE has some good things but IMO their SF connectors are not one of them when there are better options that don’t cost much more.
 

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Bolt in units will eventually work loose due to the nature of how they install. They use clamping force to keep them where they are supposed to be and pretty much no matter what you do the stock subframe will deform and allow the bolts to work loose. The harder you are on the car the quicker it can happen.

I was referring to having to weld them in. This is the only way I would ever put a set in. I don’t know where you got “welding the ends”. The rest of my comment was basically you do you now that the information has been provided to you. Something is better than nothing but it’s curious how all the recognized Mustang suppliers of the rectangular units all run 0.083” wall thickness. SVE has some good things but IMO their SF connectors are not one of them when there are better options that don’t cost much more.
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Appreciate the insight coupe. Yeah I'll see if the seller replies as to some specs on them
 

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I think the bottom line here is that subframe connectors are just a lousy place to try and save a buck.
 
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I think the bottom line here is that subframe connectors are just a lousy place to try and save a buck.
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That is an understatement.
Saving a buck for me these days means buying the best product at the cheapest price.

In this case they get welded in. Not exactly something you want to do twice.
Bolt isn't really an option (i don't care what ads say). When aero says they will loosen up, i'm sure they do, the real question is how torn the bolt holes will be.
 

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I literally just went through this. Did the MM full length weld in SFC’s plus labor for welding them in… not a cheap endeavor.
 

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I had Maximum Motorsport installed at a speed shop last year, welded in place with seat brackets. Totally worth the investment the car is now tight even the owner of the shop commented on the difference
 
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I literally just went through this. Did the MM full length weld in SFC’s plus labor for welding them in… not a cheap endeavor.
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Why my 83 has not progressed forward... I was going to try to do it myself on my 12" Race Ramps... Too old, Too fat I guess.... Looking for a place to take mine to have it done....
 
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Did the seller get back with you on the wall thickness?
 

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Why my 83 has not progressed forward... I was going to try to do it myself on my 12" Race Ramps... Too old, Too fat I guess.... Looking for a place to take mine to have it done....
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my son has a '21 charger scat pack and that car is heavy. He ordered a nice set of race ramps I forgot who makes them but were between 300-500 bucks. They actually sent him 2 sets because one had a small nick but wasn't a big deal. I like using them
 
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Did the seller get back with you on the wall thickness?
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he said they didn't include any information but he's going to try and get the info. If not though I think I'll be comfortable getting another set of Sve's that I put on my 94 in '21.
 
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my son has a '21 charger scat pack and that car is heavy. He ordered a nice set of race ramps I forgot who makes them but were between 300-500 bucks. They actually sent him 2 sets because one had a small nick but wasn't a big deal. I like using them
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They work well and it seems safer to me than jack stands. Still wish I had a tall ceiling and a lift....
 

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They work well and it seems safer to me than jack stands. Still wish I had a tall ceiling and a lift....
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Thought that right rear stand was cracking…… then realized it was a handle. I was worried for you for a quick second!
 
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