What setup do you recommend for more power

BAD1993STANG

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I have a 1993 fox with the following parts and want to go a different more power route.
I have dss 347 with trickflow 170cc heads, tfs stage 2 cam,1.6 rockers
Trackheat upper and lower,long tubes 75mm throttle body. 24# injectors,pro-m mass air
I dynoed at 340 rwhp just motor 494rwhp with nitrous. I want more hp without nitrous??

 

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BAD1993STANG said:

I have a 1993 fox with the following parts and want to go a different more power route.
I have dss 347 with trickflow 170cc heads, tfs stage 2 cam,1.6 rockers
Trackheat upper and lower,long tubes 75mm throttle body. 24# injectors,pro-m mass air
I dynoed at 340 rwhp just motor 494rwhp with nitrous. I want more hp without nitrous??

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What is the goal for the car? Its use? Purpose? How bout boost?

 

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gearheadboy said:

What is the goal for the car? Its use? Purpose? How bout boost?

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gearheadboy said:

What is the goal for the car? Its use? Purpose? How bout boost?

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I drive the car every once in a while and just street race every so often. I want to keep my 347 and change anything i can on a small budget

 

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If you are on a small budget you are gonna have fun adding much power. Pullies? Exhaust? Short belt? How bout a gear swap? A good custom tuned chip? Lighten the car? Why not throw the bottle at it since you have it? If you just wanna blow off your buddies Camaro just juice it when ya need to.

 

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If you are on a small budget you are gonna have fun adding much power. Pullies? Exhaust? Short belt? How bout a gear swap? A good custom tuned chip? Lighten the car? Why not throw the bottle at it since you have it? If you just wanna blow off your buddies Camaro just juice it when ya need to.

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I am wanting to get around 425 rwhp without nitrous then spray if i need extra. What would you recomend to change on my setup. I thought to send heads and get ported and polished to the max
And get upper and lower ported to match and maybe 42lb injectors. Maybe 85mm throttle body. Maybe new cam just asking for advise.

 

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I thought you were on a budget? Heads are small. Call a cam manufacturer and tell them what you got. Let them pic. Why all the horsepower? Does it hook? Gears? You wanna be fast or just hear the numbers? I'm not understanding. Vortec would be my first choice if it hooks and you have like a 3:73 or 4:10. I'd also sell the heads and buy some 190's or greater.

 

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I thought you were on a budget? Heads are small. Call a cam manufacturer and tell them what you got. Let them pic. Why all the horsepower? Does it hook? Gears? You wanna be fast or just hear the numbers? I'm not understanding. Vortec would be my first choice if it hooks and you have like a 3:73 or 4:10. I'd also sell the heads and buy some 190's or greater.

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Yes it hooks it has 373 with 275 drag radials. I can spend money but just want to get away with making hp with least amount.

 

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I believe my compression is 10.5 to 1 i am not sure but super charger wont work good on this my setup would it?

 

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BAD1993STANG said:

I am wanting to get around 425 rwhp without nitrous.

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I suggest the following:

TEA ported TFS 205 heads
TFS R intake
Custom cam
30lb injectors
1-3/4" headers (if yours are 1-5/8")
Tune

You should be able to sell your existing parts quite easily to recoup some of the cost.

 

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Boost..only answer in my book..prob cost less than replacing everything..you can make 400 hp with a stock motor and boost..your setup will work just fine..

 

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11.5:1 should get you damn close...

is this in a stock block?

f8tlfiveo said:

Boost..only answer in my book..prob cost less than replacing everything..you can make 400 hp with a stock motor and boost..your setup will work just fine..

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10.5:1 plus boost on pump gas will have a tuning window about the size of a tick... will make great power prob more then the stock block can handle

 

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I 2nd what Bullitt95 said. If it doesn't get you all the way there, it'll getcha mighty close.

 

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Have the heads cnc'ed by tea as bullit suggested above.
Lose the intake for a efi victor jr.
Custom cam
30lb injectors
95mm pro m

Forget the supercharger idea, it's pointless on a 347 built on a stock block.
For sure it's not cheaper, for the hci change you can sell off your old parts and recoop a good portion of the money.

If you were to just slap a vortech on there, you would need much more than just the base kit to make any real boost on a 347.

 

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why would he need ''cnc'ed'' heads??? and when u say custom cam what do mean??? what should the LSA be for an engine like this? hes looking to achieve more hp N/A so how much over lap should this cam have to provide this engine with efficient scavenging to help the charge delivery ?? please explain????

 

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http://www.dragzine.com/tech-stories/shelf-cams-vs-custom-cams-how-to-choose/

 

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If you dont know what a custom cam is you know nothing

 

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Guys, don't humor him.
He's just busting balls.
If he's going to harass people, i'm all for it, but it should at least be funny.

 

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As a matter of fact, just click on his avatar and goto "ignore".

 

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still think higher compression will be the cheapest solutions...

 

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Yeah but higher compression will limit him if he decides to go with a power-adder later. Because we all know that once you achieve 1 hp goal, soon after that's not enough and we strive for more power. That's normally when we start looking at power-adders.